[deserttrans]

I have used SS, AC and GG components in the past. All good quality and serve a purpose. Polished components and changed springs too. The best results ever received is the Robar NP3 coatings of the internals and pistol. Not cheap but will make a difference in the overall smoothness of a pistol. I have three Sigs done and all are head and shoulders above my other attempts for improvement.

Robar NP3 Plating Review - Handguns

Wandering the isles of the SHOT Show, I came across Robar's booth. They displayed various offerings

www.handgunsmag.com

 

[Hammer]

The "super strut" is hype.

You must have gotten the only one that didn't work.

 

[sigb]

The strut is a quality product but did nothing to smooth my pull or lighten it. A good polish job helps. To me the SS is just overstatement.

 

[Claymore504]

The Super Strut is not hype when it comes to the SAO. I am a new P226 Legion SAO owner and the Superstrut is a must have if the hammer is impacting the safety lever crossbar.

 

[powermad]

You'll see the most improvement with DA/SA guns that have the new style, short strut/long base struts.

 

[ruquikr]

I have used SS, AC and GG components in the past. All good quality and serve a purpose. Polished components and changed springs too. The best results ever received is the Robar NP3 coatings of the internals and pistol. Not cheap but will make a difference in the overall smoothness of a pistol. I have three Sigs done and all are head and shoulders above my other attempts for improvement.

Robar NP3 Plating Review - Handguns

Wandering the isles of the SHOT Show, I came across Robar's booth. They displayed various offerings

www.handgunsmag.com

I've had similar experience. I had CCR refinish 2 pistols outside and inside with their CPII/Dusk coating. This included coating the factory "new style" strut and putting in a Wolff 19lb hammer spring. This has shown me the best results for a smooth pistol. Cost is a factor though, so I'd never do every pistol I own. I have had favorable results using just a CPII coated sear, safety lever, and hammer strut with lighter spring in an otherwise stockish pistol. I always use the "new style" strut as the leverage and feel of those has felt right for me vs. the old pinned style or E2.

 

[226doc]

As some of you are aware, I’ve tried the superstrut on my DA/SA 226 Legion and experienced several light primer strikes with different ammo. Robert’s been great, sending me a replacement (which made no difference), and most recently his “improved” superstrut, which also made no difference. I’m back to the stock strut and spring. So your mileage may vary….

 

[88e30m50]

If you are talking about the Safety Lock Spring in the Slide, Armory Craft has a reduced tension replacement in their Sig Spring Kit... Sig Sauer Trigger Pull Reduction Kit P220 P224 P225A1 P226 P227 P228 P229 P239 | armorycraft

That’s good to know Willard. I have that exact kit inbound.

 

[88e30m50]

There is no question that it will lower DA and SA pull and will provide a smoother action. That has been well established here, hence why many of us have purchased and continue to purchase them. Let us know your impressions once you’ve been to the range!

I installed the SS last night and the DA is definitely better. It’s showing a drop of about 1 1/4# on the trigger gauge in DA but maybe a 1/4# in SA. I have a spring kit coming to take care of some other issues but I’m a happy camper with the SS installed. I tried both the GG blue spring and the one included and could not detect a difference between the two so I’m running the polished on that came with it.

The trigger pull is still gritty but that’s not coming from the hammer/strut. When I dry fire and hold the trigger back, I can manipulate the hammer and it’s smooth as butter. If I then hold the hammer forward and manipulate the trigger, there’s grittiness there. I’ve not taken this gun down completely since getting it a couple of weeks ago. I just cleaned and lubed it and then put a box of .357 Sig through it. I figured that I’d do the detail strip, clean and polish once all the parts are on hand and that should be Monday when they get here.

I’d do a SS again and over time will probably swap the rest of the Sigs out for them. At $60 a pop, it will take a while to get them all done though.

 

[sigsmsnc]

As some of you are aware, I’ve tried the superstrut on my DA/SA 226 Legion and experienced several light primer strikes with different ammo. Robert’s been great, sending me a replacement (which made no difference), and most recently his “improved” superstrut, which also made no difference. I’m back to the stock strut and spring. So your mileage may vary….

If not mistaken Sig’s mainspring is 21# and The Sig Armorer sends a 20# Wolff with the Super Strut. I assume you layed the OEM and the SS on top if each other to see differences. The SS helps a bit in leverage on compressing the mainspring and in the action where it engages the hammer. I have the SS in all my P22x without issue and recently dropped down to a 19# Wolff although I forget which ones I have tried the 19# on. Have you considered trying the Super Strut with the Sig OEM 21# mainspring? Just curious.

 

[88e30m50]

The Armory Craft spring kit came in today for my P229 and with all installed, it’s down to a 7.25# DA that is buttery smooth with a hair under 3.5# SA that’s nice and crisp. When I did a thorough disassembly, I found most of the innards caked in old white lithium grease that had collected dirt. Putting the lower back together got me down to a 7.5# DA with a 3.5#SA. Doing the slide dropped a quarter pound from DA and maybe an ounce from the SA.

It’s perfect with this combo. The SS did make a big initial improvement and now that the rest of the gun is up to speed with it, it feels fantastic. I’ll head out to the range tomorrow to run it in some to see how it came together.

 

[AzMaz]

The Armory Craft spring kit came in today for my P229 and with all installed, it’s down to a 7.25# DA that is buttery smooth with a hair under 3.5# SA that’s nice and crisp. When I did a thorough disassembly, I found most of the innards caked in old white lithium grease that had collected dirt. Putting the lower back together got me down to a 7.5# DA with a 3.5#SA. Doing the slide dropped a quarter pound from DA and maybe an ounce from the SA.

It’s perfect with this combo. The SS did make a big initial improvement and now that the rest of the gun is up to speed with it, it feels fantastic. I’ll head out to the range tomorrow to run it in some to see how it came together.

Very good looking P229!

 

[GoneBallisticInAlabama]

I recently purchased three SuperStruts; two for P226/P229 and one.for P220 (I only own DA/SA in the classics).
I haven't done any measurements of trigger pull in an attempt to collect "scientific" data.

So far, I've only installed one in a P229 that is one of my three favorite shooters. They all have the current short seat and factory strut. I had installed a 19 pound mainspring and smoothed the edges of the factory strut that contact the mainspring. The factory strut in this particular P229 was already nice and smooth where it engages the hammer. But I wanted to try these magical SuperStruts, so I installed it in the P229. I also installed it with the same 19 pound mainspring that I already had in it. I didn't want to increase the weight with the 20 pound spring that came with the SuperStrut.

This is purely subjective because, as I said, I made no attempts at taking measurements. I'm less interested in how many fractions of an ounce that I may have shaved off the trigger pull as I am in how smooth it feels and whether I feel like I'm getting better trigger control. But, I could tell no difference between the SuperStrut and the factory strut that I had smoothed the edges on a little. I could not feel any difference.

The installation on the Grayguns trigger and Grayguns SRT kits in those three SIGs made a very noticeable improvement in the smoothness of the action in those three guns (and others). It is also my opinion that the Armory Craft DA/SA reduced mass hammers further improved the action. I also believe that my smoothing of the edges of the factory strut and trigger bar contributed.

I believe the SuperStrut is definitely needed in SAO SIGs. All mine are DA/SA (except for my 1911s and my one P320 AXG).

Or if you have some really rough hammer struts, particularly one that might be rough where it engages the hammer, like one that Willard photographed in another thread, a SuperStrut would help. But then so would a better made factory one, in that case.

I am still thinking about whether I will go forward with installing the other two SuperStruts in my modified MK25 and modified P220. But I may just remove the one I installed in the P229 and sell all three of the SuperStruts. Because in my one installation, I haven't felt an improvement from it.

 

[FrozenIceman]

Interesting how this thread was necro'd

I should probably point out a few things from my original assessment.

I used the stock spring in both my regular and SS test, base gun was an E2. It is quite possible the trigger improvement with the SS others are seeing is from a weaker SS main spring or going from the original hammer strut design to the new e2 design+seat.

I started to have light strikes in my 22lr conversion, only when the SS was installed and sig oem spring (I did not try Burke's lighter spring due to reliability concerns) . I sent the slide back to sig for inspection and it came back with a clean bill of health.

I read somewhere someone had similar FTF's with the 22lr slide and SS and we narrowed it down to the SS. I tested this a few times swapping the parts back and forth and it went fron FTF every 5 rounds to perfectly reliable.

I did talk with Burke and he indicated his hammer strut does indeed reduce the spring compression. He is now aware and acknowledges that it significantly reduces 22lr reliability in a p226. (I wrote a post about this somewhere).

Since I shoot 22lr, 9mm, 357 sig, and 40 out of it I put the oem back in and sold my SS to Devereaux and hopefully he is happy with it.