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Romeo 1 sight?

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#1 ·
Greetings from Florida, I apologize if this is a stupid question, but I am inexperienced with reflex sights.

I recently upgraded my P320 to a full size RX in order to speed up target acquisition in 2 gun matches. When I took it to the range, I was able to get accurate groupings with the sight off and using the iron sights.

When I turned on the red dot, I was only accurate when taking the time to sit the dot on the front sight post. Perhaps I misunderstood, but I was expecting to be able to ignore the irons and just focus on the red dot as my point of aim.

Am I doing something wrong?
 
#22 ·
Just an update on the new in a box Romeo I got. I noticed that the brightness of the dot I have right now is too bright. From the lowest setting it only needs one push up for it to be bright and the highest setting was super bright. Can’t really see through it well. This might be my eyes but compared to the factory one I got and the refurb one. Both were the same brightness. I need 2-3 button presses before I got to my preferred brightness. I don’t know if the new in the box one is broken too. But shot with it yesterday and everything was perfect. It held its zero. I don’t know yet if this will cause the battery to run out quickly.


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#20 ·
Good deal. I may have to try that. I'm pretty sure all 4 of the Romeo 1's I have now are refurb's. And all of them are battery eaters. I got 3 of the originals by buying new RX's, and 1 I bought new online. So it really disappoints me to get refurbs as replacements. But I'm so tired of the Romeo replacement treadmill.
 
#19 ·
Just wanted to give an update on my Romeo1 issues. Sorry OP. Wanted to post it here because I mentioned the issue I had with it here.

So I got the Romeo back a week ago. It was a refurbished unit. Everything worked great. I even noticed that there was a click when you adjust the windage. My first one didn’t have that click. Which means the first one was really defective. I noticed that the refurb I got had a small black line on the lower right part of the glass. I initially thought it was a crack. But it was a scratch on the front tint of the lens.

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Honestly it didn’t bother me because the Romeo was working flawlessly. But I still wanted to call sig and let them know. When I called them I told them about the issue and said that if it’s not covered by the warranty, I can live with it. He apologized nicely and told me that I should have gotten a new one the first time I had an issue with the Romeo. So he told me to send the refurb back and he will send me a brand new one ASAP. 2 days later I received this.

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#18 ·
Yeah, agree that snugging-up that battery cover's gonna help. Another potential issue with these alloy threaded battery caps is oxidation. No expert here, but know some that are. Aluminum develops a very thin surface oxidation that you can't even see. Normally, alloy fasteners have enough length, thread locker or lube to at least mitigate this erosion. But Romeo's battery cap threads are so shallow and without thread locker or lube - This 'rust' may cause it to loosen over several months.

No worries, a quick cleaning of these threads when changing the battery is all that's necessary. Some light steel wool action or just use a pencil erasor should do the job...


Cheers
 
#17 ·
FWIW Trijicon says ~25 days at full brightness for their RMR. I run my Romeo somewhere just south of the middle brightness.

I will say that I'm a firm believer in tossing that plastic screw driver they include right in the trash and torqueing that cap down until it sqawks at ya after you replace with a name brand battery.
 
#14 ·
I hope they replace it too. I might have gotten a bad unit. But the person I spoke with told me that it happens. Then we got into the conversation that you know, with any equipment you still have to check it once in a while. Even if it’s meant to perform well. Same with cars, airplanes, snowblowers, etc. because you don’t want to be in a situation that when you need it the most, it doesn’t work properly.

Honestly I was wishing that this happened after they sold off every Romeo1 that they have. So that I might get the new ones that are coming out [emoji23]


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#13 ·
Idk what is going on with Jayzens hopefully they replace it because after two years and thousands of rounds mine has not lost zero. I'm on battery number two or three can't remember.

Make sure you practice with it a lot at home (empty and safe of course). Present from holster or low ready and pick say an outlet or some "target" that's in a safe direction and practice bringing the pistol up to your line of vision and "lining it all up" ala finding the dot on the target. after a few weeks and a few thousand presentations it will become old hat. Might not be the best way to do it but it worked for me.

I didn't have to retrain both eyes open as I'm cross eye dominant and have been focused on doing that all along.
 
#12 ·
When I used the bore Sighter to zero it. I do see that the red dot does not change dramatically from 25 to 10 yards. The change is so little. I zero my red dot at 17 yards when I get home. Because that’s how I think I will use the gun. (17 yards is the estimated distance from my bed to the door, distance from the top of the stairs to the bottom of the stairs. Same with my basement stairs) then change the zero if I want to shoot farther at the range. I also use a rail laser to mark the point of impact cause I’m lazy. I don’t want to go walk down the range or push buttons just to check my target.


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#11 ·
It’s already there but with a different issue. The diode lost it’s brightness. It still turns on. But it’s very dim. I asked about the zero issue. They told me it will lose its zero. It’s not guaranteed that it will hold. Theoretically it will stay zeroed for the most part because of how it’s designed. But it’s not perfect. That’s why you have to check it. For me. I don’t mind checking the sights. If after 3 range sessions it loses its zero. It’s fair for me. But if it loses its zero after just one session or even one shot then there’s a problem.


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#15 ·
It’s already there but with a different issue. The diode lost it’s brightness. It still turns on. But it’s very dim. I asked about the zero issue. They told me it will lose its zero. It’s not guaranteed that it will hold. Theoretically it will stay zeroed for the most part because of how it’s designed. But it’s not perfect. That’s why you have to check it. For me. I don’t mind checking the sights. If after 3 range sessions it loses its zero. It’s fair for me.
Dang, you're pretty understanding! That would be entirely unacceptable to me. I shoot my guns a LOT, 2-3 range trips a week. So the zero is confirmed regularly. If I had to tweak them more than once a year, I'd think they were broken. But I've just not had any issues there.

I zero my red dot at 17 yards when I get home. Because that’s how I think I will use the gun. (17 yards is the estimated distance from my bed to the door, distance from the top of the stairs to the bottom of the stairs. Same with my basement stairs)
Your staircases are 51 feet long? Holy cow! That must be some house.
Honestly I was wishing that this happened after they sold off every Romeo1 that they have. So that I might get the new ones that are coming out
Yeah, I hear you there. But I figure over time, I'll get there. None of my Romeo's has stood the test of time, so I'm sure they'll run out of the crappy refurb's they've been sending me as replacements sooner or later.
 
#8 ·
Try to zero your Romeo1 each time you go to the range. When I got the gun. It was dead on the front sight. After 3 range sessions with it I noticed my shots were going to the low left. I thought I was having an off day. Had another guy shoot it and it was still going left. Bought a laser bore sight and saw that the red dot was way off. So even though the product manual says it won’t lose its zero because of the springs attached inside. You might want to check it always, especially after a shooting session.


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#10 ·
Try to zero your Romeo1 each time you go to the range. When I got the gun. It was dead on the front sight. After 3 range sessions with it I noticed my shots were going to the low left. I thought I was having an off day. Had another guy shoot it and it was still going left. Bought a laser bore sight and saw that the red dot was way off. So even though the product manual says it won’t lose its zero because of the springs attached inside. You might want to check it always, especially after a shooting session.
You need to send that optic in for replacement. I have had a ton of issues with the Romeo's, but that is not one of them. Once zeroed, they hold it. Even my EDC RX does not drift.
 
#6 ·
Sight in your red dot independent of your irons. Your irons may not be as accurate as you think. Then when shooting get used to the red dot, focus only on the red dot. The irons are now only back up for your red dot if it fails. When sighted in your red toe may, or may not line up with your irons. Trying to use both defeats the whole purpose of a red dot sight
 
#4 · (Edited)
Welcome to Sig Talk and Congrats on your P320RX. Yeah, you have the right idea - shouldn't need any co-witness with a properly zeroed reflex sight. Make sure your Romeo's POA and POI are sighted and you're good to go.

EDIT: I'll add my P229RX's Romeo was off quite a bit. Windage ~6" and elevation ~4" at 10yds...


Cheers
 
#3 ·
When using a reflex sight, you don't focus on the red dot.

Instead, with both eyes open, you focus on the target and superimpose the dot over your intended POI.

If you focus on the dot and your irons are properly co-witnessed, then you will see a conventional sight picture as well as the dot.

After years of being trained to focus on the front sight, it can be difficult to transition to the completely different way that red dots work.

Focus on the target, not the dot.
 
#2 ·
You need the front sight to co-witness. It takes some practice and time to get used to a reflex sight. Folks that have shot with irons for years over years sometimes have trouble getting used to the reflex sight picture.

Been said a thousand time, but here it is again, keep practicing!

Good luck