[RoscoeD]

Marketing...trying to duplicate the original as much as they could.

 

[Wulfmann]

The biggest attraction (to me) for the M11A-1 is the anti-corrosion coating applied to the Mk25 and original P228 M11A-1 used by the military.
In truth that will likely never matter but I like having a gun (or 2) with that extra protection

I don't actually care it is a P229 with P228 labeled grips. I can't understand how that is at all relevant

A P229 is a great gun and while most of my pistols have rails I prefer a few to not have them.

I understand making a gun that has ties it to a real military sidearm even if it is a mimic version is just good marketing so why wouldn't Sig tap into this desire.

 

[vincent317]

OP - for reference here is an M11-A1 (P229 9mm) and a couple of KB date code P228s. Similar pistols but the P228 seems to balance better and I like the standard trigger better.

 

[sideburn]

The biggest attraction (to me) for the M11A-1 is the anti-corrosion coating applied to the Mk25 and original P228 M11A-1 used by the military.

In truth that will likely never matter but I like having a gun (or 2) with that extra protection



I don't actually care it is a P229 with P228 labeled grips. I can't understand how that is at all relevant



A P229 is a great gun and while most of my pistols have rails I prefer a few to not have them.



I understand making a gun that has ties it to a real military sidearm even if it is a mimic version is just good marketing so why wouldn't Sig tap into this desire.

I'm with you Wulfmann. The M11 is great in its own right. Having a nostalgic connection to the original 228 is neat but not critical in making it function as well as it does. It stands alone as a great firearm.

The grips with 228 markings were easily resolved when I replaced them with G10s

 

[Darkstar888]

Probably so people who want a 228 over a 229 can think they are getting one.


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[wgsigs]

The biggest attraction (to me) for the M11A-1 is the anti-corrosion coating applied to the Mk25 and original P228 M11A-1 used by the military.
In truth that will likely never matter but I like having a gun (or 2) with that extra protection

I don't actually care it is a P229 with P228 labeled grips. I can't understand how that is at all relevant

A P229 is a great gun and while most of my pistols have rails I prefer a few to not have them.

I understand making a gun that has ties it to a real military sidearm even if it is a mimic version is just good marketing so why wouldn't Sig tap into this desire.

For someone like you who wants an M11-A1, an excellent gun in its own right, then you are right, the P228 grips don't mean anything.

For many, if not the majority of, hardcore SIG fans the P228 is considered the best standard production pistol that SIG has made and maybe even a grail gun, and they find the P228 grip marketing a little annoying and confusing, if not down right deceptive.

For the casual gun owner who has heard of SIG and read the glowing reviews of the P228 and the cult-like love for it by SIG fanatics, then the P228 grips might attract them to the M11-A1 kind of like Darkstar888 mentioned, thinking it is a P228.

 

[yellowlt7]

The differences are pretty well covered here, primarily the slide material. With that said, after acquiring my M11-A1 followed shortly by a P229r I quickly sold my P228's. My M11-A1 with some G10 grips is amazing and lest we forget the P229 Sport I picked up is about the best SIG I've ever laid hands on.

 

[daytwadog]

The 228, 226, 225 & 220 are THE iconic, old time triple serial/test target Sig pistols. It does not make them the "best" but....IMHO....they are from an earlier and special era. They are unique and worth owning/shooting.

History going boom in your hand. Every true Sigaholic has a 228....period.

 

[wgsigs]

The 228, 226, 225 & 220 are THE iconic, old time triple serial/test target Sig pistols. It does not make them the "best" but....IMHO....they are from an earlier and special era. They are unique and worth owning/shooting.

History going boom in your hand. Every true Sigaholic has a 228....period.

For many, if not the majority of, hardcore SIG fans the P228 is considered the best standard production pistol that SIG has made and maybe even a grail gun, and they find the P228 grip marketing a little annoying and confusing, if not down right deceptive.

Being considered the best by some people does not necessarily mean it is the best.

 

[Wulfmann]

While it is not a big deal I feel the P228 on the M11A-1 grips are confusing and misleading.

IMO the grips should just say "Sig Sauer" so they can keep the M11 aspect separated but not infer it is a P228 which it falsely does.

Once one understands the logic in the why or perhaps the lack of logic as to why making a misleading badge it simply comes down to the M11A-1 being a excellent pistol and that makes it worth having above any other consideration

 

[R1200Jedi]

Every true Sigaholic has a 228....period.

Hey now, I can't count on both hands and feet the number of SIG's I've owned for the past 20+ years, and I've never owned a P228. :lol: I wouldn't turn one down, for sure. I imagine I'd like it a whole lot. But I've always been a P226 fan more than a P228 fan, and now I have an M11A1, which I wouldn't trade for a brand new in the box P228, so I really have no need for one.

 

[kcb]

96 west German

used w ger '90's 226, $450 up depending on condition, original box, test target. nib/anib can go up to $700+ around here.

I sold a96 226 this year with box and target, only fired at factory. It sold in three days for 1100.00 here in grand old California.

 

[mercedes]

They are very similar.
I had a 228 and prefer the durability and better rust resistance on a nitroned 229

 

[Dve66]

The M11 A-1...confusing, nah!

Slide is marked M11 A-1

Barrel is marked P229-1

Grips marked P228

Mag is marked P229-1

Nah, not confusing at all...

 

[RamRMK]

228 - Folded carbon steel slide that it viewed to give better balance by some because it is lighter. Available in 9mm only

229 - Stainless steel slide that is machined. The extra strength of the milled slide allows for the 229 to also handle .40 S&W and .357 Sig chamberings.

Frames - Pre E2 era, the 9mm 229 and 228 frames were essentially the same and the 229 .40 S&W and .357 Sig frames were slightly different in the magazine well area due to magazine dimensions
- Post E2, the frames on the 229 are all the same regardless of caliber and the 9mm magazines are different "Enhanced" 9mm's require the 229-1 magazine which is dimensionally the same as the .40 and .357. I believe now all the 229 frames are the same.

Note: by dimensionally the same, I am refering to being able to fit and function in the same magwell.

So if you bought a p228 parts kit which included everything essentially but the frame would it fit a p229 frame with or without e2?


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[wgsigs]

So if you bought a p228 parts kit which included everything essentially but the frame would it fit a p229 frame with or without e2?


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Yes, but you would have to use the P228 locking insert unless you have an old (not P229-1) 9mm P229 frame, which is basically the same as a P228 frame as Reliable mentioned.

 

[RamRMK]

I have a railed non e2 40 cal


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[tcfiero]

I have a railed non e2 40 cal


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Yes, you will need the locking insert with that frame.

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[dieter9mm]

Just bought a M11-A1 in Army Green for my wife (who loves it except for the DA trigger pull), and it says P228 on the grips.

 

[dieter9mm]

Whoops, went to wrong thread! Sorry