[t4terrific]

Bore axis is a myth.

Only on Sig forums. Every other gun manufacturer disagrees.

 

[Spookster]

This how I lowered mine. Just fire it upside down.

 

[ryanol]

Only on Sig forums. Every other gun manufacturer disagrees.

I have Glock 19 and a compact Rx .

The 19 has sat in the safe since the 320 came home.

Like others have said I've not found standard 9mm to have any real noticeable recoil in any of my guns.

+P can get a little snappy in the 938 with a two finger grip and the flush mag

Perhaps that's why I don't notice any issues with my 320. I run a compact slide on a subcompact grip module. Maybe the added weight of the compact slide vs the subcompact slide adds enough to weight to negate the bore axis issue.

 

[leathermaneod]

I can very much relate to the added muzzle flip that some experience with the P320. I’m not saying it can’t be overcome with proper technique and training, but to say that the whole high bore axis thing is a myth is just not true. It affects everyone differently, but it is real. For me, it made shooting the P320 very frustrating because I could shoot other guns significantly more accurately with significantly less effort.


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[ryanol]

I can very much relate to the added muzzle flip that some experience with the P320. I’m not saying it can’t be overcome with proper technique and training, but to say that the whole high bore axis thing is a myth is just not true. It affects everyone differently, but it is real. For me, it made shooting the P320 very frustrating because I could shoot other guns significantly more accurately with significantly less effort.


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That's fair - it was a generalization to make a dramatic point. The more honest statement would have been - bore axis does not affect me of bore axis is a training issue.

Perhaps the fact that 65-70 percent of my range time is dedicated to shooting subcompacts that I notice perceived muzzle rise less. Maybe the extra weight of the Rx negates the muzzle rise. Maybe the reddot allows for faster tracking to make up for lost time with extra muzzle flip? Lots of variables may be affecting perceived muzzle flip. Maybe I just don't notice it because I'm just not a good enough shooter to pick up on subtle nuances. Ill be honest I am just a casual shooter putting approximately 4000 rounds through the barrel in any given year. I am not involved in competitive shooting nor do I routinely time myself. I'm just a guy that likes to punch paper and ring steel and aside from a few profile shot videos for technique review these are all just my perceptions.

Different strokes for different folks.

 

[BILLG]

Hey all, I am not happy with the high bore axis on any of my P320's. Is there a way to lower the bore axis by shaving or making a beaver tail out of the the frame somehow? is there a custom shop that can do this?

The bore axis **** is highly over rated.If you can't shoot the pistol well you have other issues.

 

[Surtur]

Bore axis is a myth.

Just like Glock reliability.

yeah thats why all the high end competitors use a glock 34, because glock reliability and bore axis are a myth. :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Mr happy]

Get a Glock [emoji854]. I love Sigs, don't get me wrong but the bore axis on a Glock cannot be beat


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Not true. Arsenal stryke 1 beats the glock.

 

[NHTerryP]

I don't even know what bore axis means. Either it fits your hand or doesn't, either you can shoot it accurately or you can't. The former you should be able to figure out before you buy it and the latter after you put a few hundred rounds downrange.

 

[ryanol]

yeah thats why all the high end competitors use a glock 34, because glock reliability and bore axis are a myth. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Everyone I KNOW or follow that competes in gun games run 2011 from sti or atlas granted that's more 3 gun than straight up pistol competition. Again I don't know that many competitive shooters.

Isnt the 34 a long slide?
Weren't we talking about subcompacts?
Where are we!!?

I just know that I see a lot of people complain about bore axis yet it doesn't really seem like an issue to me.

Oh doesn't max hold some records with a 320?

Now I'm back to it being a myth lol.

yall can run a comp'd space gun with a Volkswagen sized light hanging off the bottom...I'm sure If you get enough weight hanging off the front you can keep it perfectly flat and high speed.

 

[Scooter22]

I bought them pretty much all at the same time and sometimes holding a new pistol and the excitement that comes with it, sometimes you can get lost in the emotion of it.

The Glock 26 has less felt recoil and double taps are a lot faster than P320 subcompact. Yes the P320 Subcompact can still shoot pretty well but not as good as the G26. The G26 has other issues like the grip is too thick and I can't reach trigger without rotating my hand which is not good. The G26 only holds 10 rounds where the Sig is 12 , to me that is huge. The finish on the slide on Sig is also way better than Glock's even with their new nitride coating Glock has. Glock uses carbon steel under the tennifer which can rust under the right condititons.

I have compact/carry P320s and a bunch of different grip modules (14 or so) including a couple of small subcompact grips. The compact slide works on the subcompact, but the barrel sticks out a little bit past the grip. My impression with subcompact mode was A) I immediately wanted a pinky extension, so I bought one of those, but what seemed to work better was using a 15 rd magazine with x-grip adapter. The thing is, with the compact magazine, the gun is effectively a compact pistol. B) In subcompact configuration with or without the pinky extension feels very top heavy. Yes, my compact barrel is a bit heavier, but I'm not sure it should makes that much of a difference. This is why I said in my original post something to the effect, "besides the subcompact, the P320s are great shooting pistols." I'm too lazy to go back and read exactly what I said. I would suggest using a 15 rd. magazine with the x-grip adapter. It adds more weight with 3 extra bullets and it feels much better in the hand.

 

[FLwolverine]

Bore axis.............

:facepalm

 

[hardluk1]

Buy a shot timer and see if the "high " bore axis really matters compared to your glucks or walthers . Might be surprised that its not . After all guys like Max Michel team sig is a world record speed shooter with a p320 !!

 

[JimLob65]

Maybe the OP should consider sn X-series P320. The grip module is more oriented towards a higher grip and the reduced weight of the slide is noticeable.

Beyond that, a 9mm pistol shouldn't be too much for an average guy to handle.....

 

[Goon Dog]

Since this isn't a competition model, I assume one would purchase it knowing he may one day use it to defend his life. Whether for carry or the nightstand, I can't imagine buying a self-defense pistol without first shooting at least a hundred rounds through it, whether with a buddy's or renting one at the range.

 

[CrashClint]

I have never liked the grip angle on the Glock, other than that, I have always been a hammer man. My brother is a contractor for the gubment, he has carried a G19 and its variants for 20 years. During the Government trials, he went out and bought a 320c and has since become a fanboy. He can switch between the G19 and 320c with no problem. He will shoot 5 rounds and quick switch guns and still be right on target. He knows the G19 inside and out and he has mastered the 320c POA.

I have been mainly a 1911 guy (my dad shot on the Airforce pistol team) all my life, that said I do own an old P220 and an HK UPSc. I have only ever owned one striker fire gun and that was in 1984, I bought a used VP70z that quickly had issues after about 1,000 rounds. Double action only and it was hit or miss if it would fire with every trigger pull. I have been shooting my brothers 320c and absolutely love the gun. He had an Apex trigger in it before sending it off for the trigger upgrade and it felt good. I liked it so much, to the point I went out and bought a 320c and 320c RX. Hey, I couldn't decide which one and for $1,150 out the door for both, well, you know.

 

[seebee62]

For me the feel of the 320 Grip outweighs the high bore axis. I like my G19 also just two different guns. I prefer the grip of the 320 by far.


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