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#42 ·
As the new owner of a P220 Hunter 10mm, I would recommend the Legion over the XTen. I looked at a new Legion at one LGS with a retail price of $1,599. The owner actually sweetened the price by reducing it to $1,550. Lucky for me I found the Hunter model at another LGS for significantly less. It is lightly used and it's not a Legion, but now I have it. I also have a 1911 in 10mm, and subjectively the P220 shoots better. The weight and grip mitigate the recoil of full power 10mm rounds, and when firing .40 S&W, it's like shooting .38 caliber wadcutters in a .357 Magnum revolver.
 
#44 ·
GoneBallisticInAlabama said:
It tames recoil unlike other polymer 10mm guns. It was as easy to shoot as my 5" SIG P220 10mm guns or my big 6" TRP Heavy Operator 1911.
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GBinAlabama is a long time forum member well known as a 10mm honk. The above quote is his experience shooting the XTEN. So unless you have experience shooting both guns don't assume that the heavier 220 automatically has less FELT recoil. Some times what is expected according to conventional wisdom doesn't hold true.

In interest of full disclosure Gone Ballistic had major issues with his XTEN mags.

After quoting him here I hope he checks in and shares his thoughts first hand.

Also in interest of full disclosure I own a XTEN and am very happy with it so far. I do not have a 220 in 10mm but confess to wishing for one to go with my 220 45. But the $1500 price tag has kept that wish at bay.
 
#45 ·
yellowlt7 said:
The Stainless Match Elite:
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That's the one I have, the tow-tone DA/SA model.
It's heavy, with a stingy mag capacity, but it's an absolute beast at handling the hottest 10mm factory ammo or (within reason) the hottest handloads.

If you tend to do most of your 10mm play at the max/nuclear level, the P220's all-steel weight and excellent grip ergonomics work together to dampen felt-recoil. In fact, the P220's grip ergonomics are significantly better than my former 10mm beast, a S&W 1006 which is now retired.
 
#46 ·
@10mmToughGuy - Hey brother, could you tell me what your DA & SA pull weights are on your gun? I think I read were they're
10# for DA & 4# for SA. Does this sound about right to you for the factory trigger?

I've been looking at one & would probably send it to Gray Guns for a new trigger & the "Competition Package" upgrade. If I knew
how the Legion's triggers were, I might just go that route but I really like the two-tone a lot.
Thanks for all your info buddy!!!

BCD 45
~Jim D.
S Texas
 
#48 ·
Jason James said:
FN 510??
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As for FN's new FN 510 Tactical, I'm waiting on our LGS and nearby range to get one in to try. A fellow shooter in SC says that it is actually "lighter" in weight with it's smaller sized frame and slide with a bit more recoil impulse than the M&P M2.0 4.6" model and the SIG X-Ten but less felt recoil than the 4" M&P M2.0 and Springfield XD-M Elite 3.8" model. Obviously, he says this is probably due to the barrel and slide of the FN 510 Tactical at 4.71" (w/ threaded barrel length). I wish there was a good (i.e. actual) "tale of the tape" comparison and detailed pics with all of the above 10mm strikers...
 
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#49 ·
AIRB0RNE6176 said:
As for FN's new FN 510 Tactical, I'm waiting on our LGS and nearby range to get one in to try. A fellow shooter in SC says that it is actually "lighter" in weight with it's smaller sized frame and slide with a bit more recoil impulse than the M&P M2.0 4.6" model and the SIG X-Ten but less felt recoil than the 4" M&P M2.0 and Springfield XD-M Elite 3.8" model. Obviously, he says this is probably due to the barrel and slide of the FN 510 Tactical at 4.71" (w/ threaded barrel length). I wish there was a good (i.e. actual) "tale of the tape" comparison and detailed pics with all of the above 10mm strikers...
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Published weight of the FN is 32 oz and the XTen is 33 oz. That FN 22 rd mag is...well...not very asthetic. I can't imagine every carrying it in a holster of any kind or using it anywhere but the range.
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#50 ·
The slide itself on the FN 510 is right at 7", so I'd imagine that it is a bit more "sporty" than the X-Ten, 4.6" M&P M2.0, Glock 20, and probably the 4.5" Springfield XD-M Elite.

Threaded barrels are nice, but suppressing 180/200/220gr 10mm ammo didn't accomplish much in my 10mm 1911 (Kimber Rapide). And an extended 22rd mag of 10mm just looks...odd (unless it's fun-time).
 
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BCD 45 said:
@10mmToughGuy - Hey brother, could you tell me what your DA & SA pull weights are on your gun? I think I read were they're
10# for DA & 4# for SA. Does this sound about right to you for the factory trigger?

I've been looking at one & would probably send it to Gray Guns for a new trigger & the "Competition Package" upgrade. If I knew
how the Legion's triggers were, I might just go that route but I really like the two-tone a lot.
Thanks for all your info buddy!!!

BCD 45
~Jim D.
S Texas
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Sorry I got back late on this …

I’ll have to check but I think my SA is about 3lbs and crisp. My gunsmith smoothed up the DA pull through by carefully “clipping” a coil off the mainspring, along with some polishing. The pull-through in DA mode is definitely under 10lbs and the DA-to-SA transition is much smoother when doing double-taps.
 
#55 ·
I have the same pistol as @10mmToughGuy (two tone DA/SA P220 10mm). I also used to own the all stainless SAO version. I hated the ledge style target sight on the SAO and the way it was cut into the slide made replacing it with something more Novak styled problematic. Since I owned both versions and someone was pestering me to sell him the SAO I sold it to him. No regrets. I still own both SAO and DA/SA versions of Sig P22* pistols and IMO the SAO versions have no advantage over the DA/SA versions. The SAO triggers and SA triggers are essentially the same on my guns and not having the manual safety is a bonus. After the first round the rest are SAO anyway so where's the advantage? This coming from a guy that's a 1911 fanboy. I like SAO guns, particularly 1911's, but when a gun like a Sig P22* is offered in bothe versions I'll take the DA/SA version every time.

I've owned a Delta Elite, G29 and G20 10mm pistols. I still have the G20. Excellent pistol. I only sold the G29 because I was divesting myself of compact/subcompact pistols. It, too, was a great pistol and surprisingly comfortable to shoot. The Delta Elite was junk and I literally gave it away. It was that bad. Never owned or shot a S&W 1066 but I'm a fan of S&W Gen 3 pistols and I wouldn't mind having one but I'm not paying the going rate for one and if you think Sig mags are expensive go search for some Gen 3 45ACP and 10mm magazines. Yikes!

I have no need for a hi-cap 10mm pistol even though I own a G20. If 8+1 rounds of hot 10mm aren't enough to get the job done then another half dozen rounds ain't gonna make much difference.
 
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