[e36m3pb]

Awesome discussion. I just picked up a 365xl and love it. Of course I'm already looking at if I should upgrade to a macro comp slide. But from the info in this thread, I am starting to think that for edc reasons, keep the xl slide on it. For range days, macro slide. I like the idea of quicker followup shots for competition, but for edc, I can see why having a comp could be detrimental to defensive situations. My WANT outweighs the need...always.

 

[Sol-Invictus]

I would not concern myself with barrel length. We are talking about 9mm which requires location and volume to be effective. There is a reason it isn't legal for hunting anything bigger than a squirrel in most places.

 

[acemcdill]

Awesome discussion. I just picked up a 365xl and love it. Of course I'm already looking at if I should upgrade to a macro comp slide. But from the info in this thread, I am starting to think that for edc reasons, keep the xl slide on it. For range days, macro slide. I like the idea of quicker followup shots for competition, but for edc, I can see why having a comp could be detrimental to defensive situations. My WANT outweighs the need...always.

Consensus seems to be if you already have an XL slide you are set to go with one of the best. But if you have the funds, go for it. I am looking forward to shooting mine

 

[Basenji]

I bought an XL so I had a uncomped slide to try on my Macro comp. For me, shooting 124 grain +P I did notice a difference between the comp and XL. My follow up shots were faster. Much faster, no, but I noticed it. I am happy with the Macro comp and it isn’t hard to clean either. I will be selling the XL in a while.

 

[Devereaux]

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I ended up getting a great deal on an unfired X Macro comped for $650. I figured if I absolutely hate it, I can always trade slides with someone with an XL. By the time I buy a XL with taxes etc its going to be at $650 anyways.

And you won’t find a Macro for $650 easily. Good choice. You can always buy an additional slide. I believe the barrel will go in the XL slide. Don’t know about the RSA

 

[TheBum]

I wear glasses made of polycarbonate anyway, so I’m not worried about eye protection in a self defense situation with the comp. Hearing protection is a valid concern, but when I’m at the range, I’ll always have ear protection and in a self defense situation, my exposure to the loud noise will likely be very limited.

 

[RamGuy84]

I really like the Macro (non-comp) version.

 

[DavidR22]

And you won’t find a Macro for $650 easily. Good choice. You can always buy an additional slide. I believe the barrel will go in the XL slide. Don’t know about the RSA

XL is a 3.7 inch barrel.
Comp is a 3.1 inch barrel.

Edit:
I STAND CORRECTED- they use the same RSAs.

 

[crosseyedshooter]

XL is a 3.7 inch barrel.
Comp is a 3.1 inch barrel.
They use different recoil spring assemblies too.

You’re right about the barrels. The XMacro Comp slide uses the 3.1” barrel shared with the standard P365 and P365X.

However, the longer slides (XL, XMacro Comp) share the same recoil spring assembly.

 

[airgunner]

To each their own. I love that Sig offers all these different variations so we can all figure out and go with what works best for us.

Personally I don't care for the standard XL much. Nothing wrong with it but for me it's in that middle of the road no mans land of being both too big and too little depending on the situation? It's too big for deep concealment (like pocket or ankle carry) but not as big or have the capacity I'd like for when ultimate concealabilty isn't needed. I have large hands so what works best for me is...

I have a standard P365 that I use it in that config for ankle carry. Honestly I don't really have a need to ankle carry anymore but there was a time when I did often so I like still having the option if the need were to arise again. Most of the time, I use it with the XL grip mod for pocket carry. I could just use the standard grip mod with the extended 12rd mags but when given the choice, I prefer and extended frame with flush mags over a shorter frame with extended mags. This config is mostly used in the summer when pocket carry is the only reasonable option for me.

The rest of the year, I carry the XMacro (NonComped). To me, that is the best all around CCW pistol ever made. Light, compact and thin but still has everything you would want/expect from a "full" size pistol (full grip, 17+1 capacity, Optic ready, picatinny rail). I personally think it's an awesome option. It's the CCW gun I've dreamt about for decades but that's just my opinion.

 

[DavidR22]

You’re right about the barrels. The XMacro Comp slide uses the 3.1” barrel shared with the standard P365 and P365X.

However, the longer slides (XL, XMacro Comp) share the same recoil spring assembly.

Thanks for correcting me. I’ll edit my post.

 

[BAC]

I wear glasses made of polycarbonate anyway, so I’m not worried about eye protection in a self defense situation with the comp. Hearing protection is a valid concern, but when I’m at the range, I’ll always have ear protection and in a self defense situation, my exposure to the loud noise will likely be very limited.

The 'stuff' expelled by the comp is not a meaningful issue even shooting in very unconventional positions; porting is more a concern in this because of the propensity to shave bullets. The sound difference to the shooter is negligible. I worded that deliberately because if you're standing beside the shooter to spot or check form or whatever you will definitely notice the difference between shooting a comped vs non-comped gun. But to the shooter, there's virtually no difference even inside the narrow stalls of an indoor public shooting range.

There are a lot of odd notions about the effects of comped handguns in general. I really encourage folks to make friends and try to find ways to get behind a comped gun at a training course or a more free outdoor range or something where you can actually practice some unconventional shooting positions, especially on the timer. There's no substitute for experience.

 

[TheBum]

I wouldn’t think a ported slide without a ported barrel would have any issues with shaving bullets.

 

[AGWoodard]

The last thing I'm betting I'm going to be thinking about in a self defense shooting is going to be my split times. But thanks for the laugh.

 

[airgunner]

Re: ported vs non-ported slide...

I tried both. I didn't find that the ported slide made much of a difference in noise or recoil control (except when using really hot loads like +P ammo). So for me, I settled on the non-ported slide because it's slightly easier to clean, slightly better velocity and longer sight radius.

 

[dgaddes1]

That was my experience with a Shield+ with barrel and slide ported. I had the same gun non-ported and shot side by side and for me, found no benefit in the porting.

 

[DetroitMike]

To each their own. I love that Sig offers all these different variations so we can all figure out and go with what works best for us.

Personally I don't care for the standard XL much. Nothing wrong with it but for me it's in that middle of the road no mans land of being both too big and too little depending on the situation? It's too big for deep concealment (like pocket or ankle carry) but not as big or have the capacity I'd like for when ultimate concealabilty isn't needed. I have large hands so what works best for me is...

I have a standard P365 that I use it in that config for ankle carry. Honestly I don't really have a need to ankle carry anymore but there was a time when I did often so I like still having the option if the need were to arise again. Most of the time, I use it with the XL grip mod for pocket carry. I could just use the standard grip mod with the extended 12rd mags but when given the choice, I prefer and extended frame with flush mags over a shorter frame with extended mags. This config is mostly used in the summer when pocket carry is the only reasonable option for me.

The rest of the year, I carry the XMacro (NonComped). To me, that is the best all around CCW pistol ever made. Light, compact and thin but still has everything you would want/expect from a "full" size pistol (full grip, 17+1 capacity, Optic ready, picatinny rail). I personally think it's an awesome option. It's the CCW gun I've dreamt about for decades but that's just my opinion.

^^^^^^^^
This is a good comment that aligns with many I know that own/carry multiple 365 Variants

 

[hiketheball]

Assuming your purpose is self defense, I would want the longest barrel length for the best ballistics.

3.1" is sacrificing too much velocity and performance versus the standard XL 3.7" barrel which only sacrifices 3% to 5% velocity versus published speeds.

Another consideration is why do we even want a comped gun for self defense to begin with, when we are not (nor should we be) chasing split times? Comps are for chasing split times, which is counter to self defense shooting.

I agree with your "longer is better" thought but my son tested both a P365 X and a P365 XL. He showed his test target to me and gave me his assessment and got the P365 X. He shot better with the X instead of the XL. (I'm the opposite; I shoot better with the XL).
My suggestion is to test each pistol for yourself and at the expected shooting distance. Let the holes in the target determine which to get. Second, if your recoil sensitive, the X Macro may provide more stability in your shooting.
IMHO & IMHE

 

[hiketheball]

Re: ported vs non-ported slide...

I tried both. I didn't find that the ported slide made much of a difference in noise or recoil control (except when using really hot loads like +P ammo). So for me, I settled on the non-ported slide because it's slightly easier to clean, slightly better velocity and longer sight radius.

In my experience the difference in controlling the pistol (recoil) was small but noticeable. While I choose the XL in 9mm, the X length is all that is available in .380acp. The XMacro has the advantage of the same sight radius as the XL (IIRC) which gives it another advantage for some people.
YMMV

 

[TheBum]

My suggestion is to test each pistol for yourself and at the expected shooting distance. Let the holes in the target determine which to get. Second, if your recoil sensitive, the X Macro may provide more stability in your shooting.
IMHO & IMHE

This is good advice and may explain why I feel the Comp shoots best for me. I have weak wrists for someone my size and I find that I can shoot much more accurately with the comp. I would expect a person with stronger wrists to not notice as much of a difference.