[SevWarfare]

Not bad. I installed the Tungsten Grip Weight Kit as well.

 

[southswede1]

To the people complaining about the finish of the magwell, what does this same magwell look like after a few range sessions.........

 

[Rustybore]

Boy what a mess. I bought a SC without knowing Sig was discontinuing support for the model. I bought it because I liked the way my sons P250 felt at the range. As things turned out, we don't know if he had his small or medium grip installed at the time. While I think a larger grip would be better for my hand, I have recently bought a couple ProMag 15 rd mags with the filler piece, this does give me a little more height and a place for my pinky. Haven't had a chance to head to the range yet. I almost bought a used X-compact OEM grip, but thought I might as well go for the Wilson as long as I'm shelling out the money. A major reason for wanting a new grip is to get rails. I have to wonder if I would ever be using a laser in a home defence scenario, but a light seems like a must have. I would love to hear from anyone who can tell me how the Wilson compares to the OEM grips in size. Also wonder if anyone has heard how long Wilson expects to be out of stock.
Thanks for any word.

 

[kernt]

It's my understanding the WC grip is similar to the SIG small grip.

ArmoryCraft carries the WC grips. Don't know about their current stock.

 

[paularmola]

I will totally disagree with you on this point. I think you are way off the mark here. There is absolutely no reason they could not have gone straight across on the cut. I will argue that it was cut in that manner with the express intention to mimic the way the OEM grip module is shaped. Not the X-Series grip modules but the standard P320 grip module. There are many guns where the rear of the grip is intentionally brought down to meet the rear of the magazine floor plate, usually on compact and sub-compact frames. No the X-Series in not like this and neither are any Glocks, but Wilson did not leave this material "due to the limitation of how much material can be removed." It was a deliberate choice to leave it. Making molds is expensive and time-consuming. Much more so than simply modifying an existing product to get the desired results. Maybe it is because the finishing on your module is not perfect. That I can understand. Mine appears to be finished much better than yours and is at an acceptable level for me. Did you not understand that it was cut down before you ordered it? I did and chose to order not one but two. I don't think anyone is arguing that these are cut down. Cause they are.
As for the other parts of your comment. Yes, the front of the magazine sticking out is subjective. No argument there. The bottom line is you may find the way Wilson approached making these unacceptable, and that is your right, you are entitled to it and no one is arguing that. But to say someone is a "fanboy" and try to discredit the function of that rear section to aid in reloading, because you are unhappy with Wilson's approach to the product is just inflammatory. Whether intentional or not, that is how it came across.

OMG! Thank you. I read the entire thread and was ready to cut my wrists. Using microscopes, micrometers, rulers, ad nauseum was way to much for me. I'm a sig DA/SA guy. You guys know, the man gun. But this over the top discussing of grind marks and crying over "what I want" reminded me of a BLM/Antifa discussion over whose more woke. Gunners gun, shooters shoot, you can fill out the latter

 

[mig1nc]

I want to see somebody put one of these on a P250 for no reason.


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[ianzuckerman157]

Get the Wilson. So much more comfortable and ergonomic than the X grip module in my opinion. Love it!

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[Buds]

* The upper 2 circles is what I like about the Wilson Combat Grip

* The circle at the Magazine is what I do not like about the Wilson "X-Compact" and the "Compact" Grips
I did not like my pinky resting on the magazine baseplate.
* To accommodate a 15 round magazine Wilson eliminated the Magwell...This makes the Mag Baseplates stick out past the Grip and it is not Flush like it is on the "Full" Grip.

* You still have the rear Grip Extension at the magazine and it is the bottom rear of the Grip that Prints.
That leaves just the use of a 15 round magazine as a reason to purchase a Wilson "X-Compact" or "Combat" Grip.
* If you want 15 rounds then just load 15 rounds into a 17 round magazine and enjoy the "Full" grip in your hands.

* In the end the trade-offs I would have to make just so I could insert a 15 Round Magazine was not worth it to me.

So, I returned the "Compact" and Sold my "X-Compact" Grip

I much prefer the Full Wilson Carry or Carry II Grip.
It's worth it to me even though I had to purchase a 17 Round Magazine to use it.

 

[Lexie__M]

I'll just leave these here as well. WCG X-Compact grip module with Sub-Compact slide and Compact slide. I like how the Compact slide looks on the X-Compact module. Kind of that classic Sig look.

I ordered the WC "carry II " for my stainless steel slide/ black grip P320.


WC
UPDATE WC sent me e-mail I will get my grip module this coming Friday

 

[ianzuckerman157]

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* The upper 2 circles is what I like about the Wilson Combat Grip

* The circle at the Magazine is what I do not like about the Wilson "X-Compact" and the "Compact" Grips
I did not like my pinky resting on the magazine baseplate.
* To accommodate a 15 round magazine Wilson eliminated the Magwell...This makes the Mag Baseplates stick out past the Grip and it is not Flush like it is on the "Full" Grip.

* You still have the rear Grip Extension at the magazine and it is the bottom rear of the Grip that Prints.
That leaves just the use of a 15 round magazine as a reason to purchase a Wilson "X-Compact" or "Combat" Grip.
* If you want 15 rounds then just load 15 rounds into a 17 round magazine and enjoy the "Full" grip in your hands.

* In the end the trade-offs I would have to make just so I could insert a 15 Round Magazine was not worth it to me.

So, I returned the "Compact" and Sold my "X-Compact" Grip

I much prefer the Full Wilson Carry or Carry II Grip.
It's worth it to me even though I had to purchase a 17 Round Magazine to use it.

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Yes I can totally see why you feel that way about the WC module. I love those upper reductions as well and I agree the baseplate sticking out of the front is aesthetically not very pleasing. However I feel it’s a small sacrifice for overall looks and feel of the WC. [emoji1360][emoji1360]


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[paularmola]

If someone needs 17 rounds in a EDC I would say he/she made some bad choices. 15 is good enough. The idea is if one needs to get into a shooting and not making it a shootout. I did carry a Sig P229C in 40 S&W. That is 12+1. My duty was also a P226 40S&W with less than 15. Yes I carried two extra mags, but again a shooting, not a shootout. I just recently started carrying a P320 Compact. 13+1 in S&W 40. I'm small framed and never worried about printing and carry OWB on all my weapons. Its a choice.

 

[mig1nc]

If someone needs 17 rounds in a EDC I would say he/she made some bad choices. 15 is good enough. The idea is if one needs to get into a shooting and not making it a shootout. I did carry a Sig P229C in 40 S&W. That is 12+1. My duty was also a P226 40S&W with less than 15. Yes I carried two extra mags, but again a shooting, not a shootout. I just recently started carrying a P320 Compact. 13+1 in S&W 40. I'm small framed and never worried about printing and carry OWB on all my weapons. Its a choice.

The thing is, that school of thought hasn't changed with the times, though it was perfectly valid not too long ago.

Today the average number of attackers in a violent assault is something like 2.9 or thereabouts. Rounds up to 3 any way you cut it.

So if you figure 2 effective rounds required on average to incapacitate the attacker you're looking at 6 effective hits.

Now let's say 1/3 of your shots hit, that is 6x3=18.

Granted that assumes none of the attackers retreats.

But more and more we are seeing people commit to a fight.

The times.... They are a changing.


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[paularmola]

The thing is, that school of thought hasn't changed with the times, though it was perfectly valid not too long ago.

Today the average number of attackers in a violent assault is something like 2.9 or thereabouts. Rounds up to 3 any way you cut it.

So if you figure 2 effective rounds required on average to incapacitate the attacker you're looking at 6 effective hits.

Now let's say 1/3 of your shots hit, that is 6x3=18.

Granted that assumes none of the attackers retreats.

But more and more we are seeing people commit to a fight.

The times.... They are a changing.


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Kenosha - multiple attackers - shots fired in defense less than 5
Portland - Two shots fired by attacker
Austin - two shots fired in defense

Having been involved in an OIS three total used and during a foot pursuit of the suspect.

Supervised post OIS as a supervisor - three encounters three rounds fired by officers.

Raids involving shooting of aggressive advancing dogs over 20 - Rounds expended on average 5. That's while moving to contact by the dog and the team.

I would say the facts run counter to your observation, or the efforts by online chairborne rangers to justify the epic civilian gun battle are overstated and sensationalist. The real world also involves post discharge litigation civilly. A good attorney would pose this question as to the need of extra magazines or as some would call "high capacity" magazines. I'm not advocating either yea or nay. But remember, "you" are responsible for every round sent downrange, whether to paper or person. Having dealt with attorneys both civilly and criminally on both sides of the equation. One needs to weigh every scenario and potential outcomes post shooting. Attorneys are slimeballs and will make mincemeat out of uninformed or unprepared officers, let alone a civilian unaccustomed to the adversarial nature of the courtroom, and given the current environment another layer of doubt to the efficacy and righteousness of a shooting will be raised. Even if justified a wrongful death suit always, and I mean always ensues.

 

[Sekiro]

When using Kenosha as an example, keep in mind that the kid had a rifle which is more accurate and has more stopping power than a pistol.

 

[Lexie__M]

When using Kenosha as an example, keep in mind that the kid had a rifle which is more accurate and has more stopping power than a pistol.

Granted most rifle cartridges are more powerful than most pistols and for longer range for sure better to have rifle.
However Kyle was on the ground and he had to use both hands to lift his rifle up point blank to aim and shoot while if he had a pistol he would only need single hand to quickly spin around and shoot his attackers.
:SIG:

 

[paularmola]

A rifle at the distance it was employed without using the sights is just a long handgun. It wasn't distance shooting, but point shooting, such as a handgun. I've used those in several barricade incidents and active shooters. Hence, why most teams use red dot sights yet train with the BUIS sights as well.

 

[pressuredrop]

my X-C grip (from MONKEY) arrived yesterday! Can't wait to give it a use [emoji16]

I really want a different coyote 3.6 slide to go with it now. I think this one would be great in fact!



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