I only carry in a sticky holster in my pocket. Mine has no belt loops. Always chambered.
I usually carry OWB in kydex. Always chambered

 

I'd be more concerned about reholstering in the sticky, as it can bend, and get tangled in the trigger. This, especially, if you do have to draw, and reholster under stress and haste.
You'd be safer with rigid kydex, and be almighty careful reholstering in any case; other things can get in the guard.
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That's very true...I realized a while ago that re-holstering a Sticky is only possible if you remove the holster and re-holster outside your carry position. The initial draw is fine. Re-holster a different story.

Mainly concerned if a chambered P365 in a Sticky is safe from an ND.

 

My pistols go from carry holster to a sticky holster while they’re in the safe or nightstand. The sticky holster fabric is rather thick and I bet it would take quite a bit of effort to pull the trigger through that material. Give it a try, unload the pistol and see if you can pull the trigger through that material. Granted the material could break down over time through use and wear, but I’d guess it would be just as safe as a leather holster. 🤷‍♂️

 

Good advice. Maybe carry it around the house with snap caps. If it doesn't go off, I don't imagine it would with live ammo.

Still, no one wants a Gold Dot +P going thru the old foot. 😢

 

Custom Kydex. The holster is your safety for striker-fired pistols with no MS.

 

First of all - THIS (and your brain is your primary safety of course).. 2nd would be carry chambered - or why bother? And 3rd would be to really check how well the sticky holster stays in the waistband during a hasty draw. In the carry class I've been taking for 2 yrs now, I've seen someone try and use a sticky in simulated threat situations -they struggled. And what about running, or falling down etc ? And re-holstering safely does require sticky holster to be removed.

A slim, minimalist, kydex IWB holster is as easy to put on as stuffing a sticky into your waistband. I use a sticky as nate the great does - gun into it in the night stand (or the very few times I pocket carry). Personally, I would not feel comfortable, or safe, with a sticky in my waistband - even with a true gun belt on. It is not something I recommend to students. But YMMV

 

It sounds to me that your concern should be with the pistol and not the holster. The light trigger pull on a cocked pistol has you concerned, as well it should. Would you carry a cocked 1911 in your pocket....with the safety off?

The next thing is that "we don't all know" that carrying a chambered round is mandatory. It's your pistol, it's your choice. This comes from a guy that's carried a cocked and locked 1911.....just like everyone knows you should.

I don't believe that you're some sort of Tactical Tony that has to go around in Condition Yellow at all times. Take a look at how the Army mandated the carry of the 1911. The chamber was empty unless danger was imminent. But today we are all so much smarter.

So, here's my take: You have a reason to doubt the trigger protection of a sticky holster on a striker fired pistol with no manual safety and a light trigger pull. If you doubt the safety of ANY set up, DON'T DO IT. That pang of doubt is really your instinct telling you that something is wrong with the set up.

ANY TIME I'm carrying IWB or POCKET, the holster comes out of my pants to reholster.....That's on a hammer fired weapon that I can cover the hammer with my thumb while reholstering too. Anything short of that is a dangerous shortcut and I won't do it.

Carry your pistol with an empty chamber if you feel safe doing it that way. Yes, it is slower. No, it's not tactically cool.
It might even save your life if someone manages to take your pistol away from you, and yes, that does happen.

I realize that NOBODY sticks their neck out and gives advice like this. Once that pistol is in your pocket, it's between God and you. You don't have to live up to anyone else's battle alert, only your own.

 

It sounds to me that your concern should be with the pistol and not the holster. The light trigger pull on a cocked pistol has you concerned, as well it should. Would you carry a cocked 1911 in your pocket....with the safety off?

The next thing is that "we don't all know" that carrying a chambered round is mandatory. It's your pistol, it's your choice. This comes from a guy that's carried a cocked and locked 1911.....just like everyone knows you should.

I don't believe that you're some sort of Tactical Tony that has to go around in Condition Yellow at all times. Take a look at how the Army mandated the carry of the 1911. The chamber was empty unless danger was imminent. But today we are all so much smarter.

So, here's my take: You have a reason to doubt the trigger protection of a sticky holster on a striker fired pistol with no manual safety and a light trigger pull. If you doubt the safety of ANY set up, DON'T DO IT. That pang of doubt is really your instinct telling you that something is wrong with the set up.

ANY TIME I'm carrying IWB or POCKET, the holster comes out of my pants to reholster.....That's on a hammer fired weapon that I can cover the hammer with my thumb while reholstering too. Anything short of that is a dangerous shortcut and I won't do it.

Carry your pistol with an empty chamber if you feel safe doing it that way. Yes, it is slower. No, it's not tactically cool.
It might even save your life if someone manages to take your pistol away from you, and yes, that does happen.

I realize that NOBODY sticks their neck out and gives advice like this. Once that pistol is in your pocket, it's between God and you. You don't have to live up to anyone else's battle alert, only your own.

Perhaps a more accurate statement than "we all know" would be "we've all been told and advised" that carrying chambered is the way to go. It makes sense, but I also feel that if one feels safer carrying unchambered, they should be able to do so without feeling wrong about it. To each his own.

That being said, carrying chambered makes sense to me in that it affords precious extra seconds if one finds themselves in that one bad situation. I like the idea of a Kydex minimalist IWB holster for the more secure trigger guard protection.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

Get a decent holster or at least with MS If you want to carry with one chambered .. chance you encounter in real gun fight is in 1/1,000.000 time or might never be in your life but you willing to take a risk to hurt yourself with a cheap holster .. !!

 

If I had any doubts regarding the safety of carrying a gun with a chambered round in a particular holster, I'd choose another sort of holster.

 

I do not own a P365, but all I can tell you about Sticky Holsters is that I stopped using them for my P226 and my P320s because the front sights were consistently getting stuck or "hung up" in the material at the bottom of the holsters. Yes, I was using the correct model and size of the holsters specified for my pistols.
Seems to me that Sticky needs to put a little piece of harder, not-pliable plastic or kydex at the bottom corner of the holsters where the front sight makes contact.

Check out the leather-lined kydex holsters at Garrett Industries. I find them ideal for all my pistols.

 

I never understood carrying a holster that doesn't secure to the belt or pants. You might as well just stick the gun in your pants and be done.
A great kydex holster with belt clip or ulticlip is not that expensive, about what a range trip of ammo and range fee costs, less than $70. Its thinner too. Why not go that route?

 

I never understood carrying a holster that doesn't secure to the belt or pants. You might as well just stick the gun in your pants and be done.
A great kydex holster with belt clip or ulticlip is not that expensive, about what a range trip of ammo and range fee costs, less than $70. Its thinner too. Why not go that route?

Right....as I mentioned in initial post, I do have a Crossbreed (Reckoning) holster which is a nice holster, but it's a little large when wearing certain clothes like shorts, etc. I do like the idea of a small Kydex holster with maybe a single belt clip.

 

The way I look at it is if you don’t carry chambered don’t bother carrying no matter how or what type of holster.

 

Recently made the switch from Glock to Sig P365x and P365xl, as they both have 90 degree break triggers without trigger safeties, and I use exclusively leather holsters, I added manual safeties to both. As I always carry loaded chamber, seemed to be prudent. As of now, I use the safety only when holstering as my primary carry is a Galco Miami Classic II. As I continue to train with the P365, I may revert to my previous training with the 1911 platform.

 

I would rather have a pistol in my pocket without one in the tube than one at home with one in the tube.

 

This is true!! I mean, I advocate carrying with one in the chamber but if that’s the deal breaker then by all means carry Israeli style. The thing is to CARRY.


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Remove the mag and clear the chamber. Put it in the Sticky and see how easy you can pull the trigger through the holster. Myself, I wouldn't worry about it in the least. The triggers on theses guns aren't too light for pocket carry much less in any holster that covers the trigger.

 

Remove the mag and clear the chamber. Put it in the Sticky and see how easy you can pull the trigger through the holster. Myself, I wouldn't worry about it in the least. The triggers on theses guns aren't too ligfeeht for pocket carry much less in any holster that covers the trigger.

I have tried this...it is nearly impossible to even feel where the trigger guard is, let alone manipulate the trigger. That being said I think something small made of Kydex will give that extra security and peace of mind. The Sticky can revert to a good old pocket holster.

 

I’m a fan of Sticky holsters and use them as pocket holsters or quick IWB. Not all day or as EDC. I’m confortable using it with my 320SC. But that’s me. As others have already said, if you’re asking the question, you know the answer.

 

 

This is a good article on Israeli methods, but unfortunately no video.

Masada Tactical: Top Training with the Israeli IDF

The real-world experiences of Israeli law enforcement and military personnel are vastly different than that of American soldiers and police.

www.tactical-life.com

 

On TV, plain-clothes cops never carry with one chambered. They always rack the slide just before they kick the door open 😆

 

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This has a very clear authentic method explained by Israeli instructor.

I think if someone trains at this it is fast, and eliminates 99% of accidental discharges

 

I use a Kydex IWB, but if I was going to use a Sticky I’d also want a manual safety.

Just my $0.02…

 

I've been waiting to see how long it would take before the Israeli empty chamber approach surfaced in this discussion. One comment I'll add is that it is like any other firearm technique - it becomes more viable with continual practice. But then add in the real physiological body reaction to a threat to gauge this technique (loss of fine motors skills among them). The other comment I'll add is this techniques viability is based on having your support hand immediately available to rack upon the draw. There are realistic scenarios where you may be carry something (or someone), or need to immediately sweep someone behind you or out of harms way as you (or before) you draw. And if your support arm is injured (ie you're shot first) you are essentially out of the fight.

As I've said previously, by all means you do what you are comfortable with. But think this fully through weighing all considerations. And then train, and train some more with whatever you choose.

 

If you have to ask this question then you probably either need a different holster or need a new carrying gun.

you answered you own question with the third paragraph about carrying with one in the chamber.

 

My wife carries her P365-380 at 2 o'clock in a Sticky. She has and does use the safety. Also always takes out the Sticky from her hip when she reholsters.

 

I use DeSantis Nemesis holsters. These work well in jackets and coat when the weather is colder. I also use these holsters for those handguns in drawers, under clothes stacks in the closest, in book bags, etc. They will also, depending on the handgun, fit into my cargo shorts' side pocket. All my vetted handgun are loaded/chambered.
A gun buddy does use his "sticky" holster as a AIWB. His pistol is a P938 so it's tiny but it doesn't drag down his pants. If he's in a setting with sensitive people, the sticky-holstered P938 slides into his front pocket.
Before kydex most holsers were a nylon-type fabric or leather. I never heard about problems with the holsters until lately.
All of us carried with a live round in the chamber unless an agency said otherwise.
Today, I would use a kydex holster (of some sort) because of all the hub-bub about ACs and NDs in LEOs' holsters.
Currently, I use a Phlster Enigma hoster setup. Their rig uses a dedicated belt, a kydex mount, & a kydex holster that mounts under your clothes. I find it comfortable to wear.
HTH & YMMV

 

You could try a Vedder Pocket Locker. I have been using one for nearly 3 years, and it is a great option, if you don't mind giving pocket carry a try. It will cover your trigger guard, so there is no worry of an unintentional discharge. I would suggest the option with the thumb tab, so that the gun is easier to get out of your pocket.