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Some of you are HK Fans

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#1 ·
I haven't owned an HK in quite a while, it was a USP 9, about twenty years ago.
I know some of you are fans of HK, and I've seen talk about the two models I was going to ask your opinion about, on here.
I like the feel of the P30 V3 DA/SA, but haven't shot one.
I wasn't really impressed with the P2000 V3 DA/SA, but the more I look at it the more I like it.

Can you tell me which you prefer and why? Accuracy I can expect?

If I get one I'll probably put the Gray Guns SRT and flat trigger in.

Btw, pictures are welcome.
 
#2 ·
I love HK and of course Sigs. That is because I’m mainly a DA/SA guy. But my advice is if you’re looking to get a P30 for a CCW try to get one with the light LEM. A P30SK LEM is what I carry when I’m not carrying my P228 or P229. I also have a P30L in DA/SA as a range toy slash John Wick cool factor.
 
#3 ·
Big HK fan here for decades. Strangely, I’ve not fired a single round through any LEM guns, although I find the concept intriguing. I have a P30SK in DA/SA, which I love for its size. I’m pretty accurate with it, but not as accurate as with any of my USP variants.

My favorite of the HK polymer guns are the USPs in DA/SA, and I’d highly recommend the compact versions if you are looking to carry. I carried a USP45c for many years, and it is highly accurate.
 
#4 ·
I haven't owned an HK in quite a while, it was a USP 9, about twenty years ago.
I know some of you are fans of HK, and I've seen talk about the two models I was going to ask your opinion about, on here.
I like the feel of the P30 V3 DA/SA, but haven't shot one.
I wasn't really impressed with the P2000 V3 DA/SA, but the more I look at it the more I like it.

Can you tell me which you prefer and why? Accuracy I can expect?

If I get one I'll probably put the Gray Guns SRT and flat trigger in.

Btw, pictures are welcome.
I've had the P2000 V3 and I have P30. Both were in 40 S&W and the P2000 had an additional 357sig barrel. The P2000 has a grip that is surprisingly more comfortable than it looks. Just fit my hand like a glove. It's basically a more modern USP and is a real HK sleeper. It was accurate and reliable of course and the recoil with either 40 or 357 was like shooting 9mm out of a Glock. Simply a pleasure to shoot. The P30 grip of course can be tailor fitted to you with the interchangeable side panels and back straps. It also has less recoil shooting 40 than other pistols of a similar size due to the recoil reduction system in HK. I just like everything about it. Accuracy with a P30 is tack-driver awesome.

Of the two, well, I still have the P30. For me I liked that I could have it in DA/SA with a manual safety as well. Personal preference. I like the look and balance of the pistol.
 
#5 ·
My EDC is a P30SK V3 and I love it. I had the P30 but decided I didn’t need two of the same format. I also love the HK45 which has the same great ergonomics and ability to customize the grip.

I tried a USP 45 and I absolutely hated it. It didn’t last a month. I think the P30/HK45 family is far superior (which I know is H&K heresy).
 
#6 ·
I am an HK fan. Especially, the USP line. Both my USP 45 Tactical and Compact are absolute tack drivers.

Regardless of your two choices, you can expect great accuracy from both. The P30 has the better ergonomics of the two IMO. Should you want an HK in 45acp, the USP or HK45 are excellent choices.

You really can't go wrong with an HK firearm.
 
#7 · (Edited)
I prefer both for slightly different reasons.
P2000-EDC
P30-shooting, range and some carry.

P2000: it’s the son of the USP line. Sturdy, rugged, reliable, built like a tank and the grip has flat sides that makes it easier to carry on the body every single day. It’s kinda a melted USP. I happen to be a LEM guy so my choice in this line is the V2. I am accurate with it for sure but not “quite” as good as with my P30’s. Recoil is a breeze with this. I own them in 9mm and 40 S&W. The .40 is great in this model too.
For what it’s worth, the P2000 is my EDC 90% of the time.

P30: Ergonomic goodness all wrapped up in a grip that if you can’t find a combination that fits you something is really wrong. I have medium size hands and found this combination of panels to be fantastic. Small back strap, small left panel, medium right panel. Each to their own obviously. I am carrying this pistol today since it’s a bit colder outside. I always carry AIWB.
to me the rounded grip “feels” better in the hand but doesn’t feel as good against the body all day long while carrying.
Again I’m LEM so mine are all in V1 on the P30’s.
Recoil is a bit longer on the P30 than the P2000 yet still extremely comfortable and controlled. Trigger is better on the P30 than the P2000.
P30 is a slightly larger gun overall than the p2000.
I am more accurate by a small margin with the P30 though over the P2000 but nothing worth worrying about. And that’s probably my fault.

You already know the answer here ( buy both!!😁). They are HK’s. Reliable, accurate, rugged, will eat anything once you run about a box or two of 124 NATO (9mm) or stout .40. (HK’s have strong springs-break in with good stuff then any light **** she’ll eat no issues.
If you MADE me pick ONE…… personally I’m going with the P2000! Its similarities to the USP line are undeniable and it simply carry’s better. You do lose two rounds from the P30 (9mm) but that can be rectified by using a P30/VP9 mag with a X-grip space filler.

Hopefully you’ll be joining the red and black “no compromises” club. Keep us informed and good luck!!
 
#8 ·
Can’t go wrong with any HK imo but what is the main purpose for this new HK? If you want it as a CC then I think the P2k is easier to conceal. The P30 is better all around besides size for CC imo. Now a P30sk is an awesome all round gun. Shoots great with the extended mags with pinky sleeves and conceals fantastic. I’d definitely add the P30sk to your list.
 
#10 ·
Because I want one. LoL probably a mix of CC and nightstand, (and around the yard and while woods walks or fishing too). I don't have a specific role as I already have some carry guns, and revolvers for walks and stuff. I am just looking for something kinda compact in G19 size, which both are close. I like Glock fine, but want an HK, 320 not on my current radar although I will have another as I've had one before.
I like how the USP Compact in .45acp fits my hand, but it's a little pricier and I'm looking at 9mm.
Pretty sure I want DA/SA, although I have gently considered the lem light.
 
#9 ·
I have a P30sk V1 (LEM trigger) that I like and actually prefer as a carry pistol. I also recommend the VP9sk to students that like striker action firearms.

They have good capacity in their 9mm variations, and are very compact, with good ambidextrous controls. I find them comfortable and accurate to shoot.
 
#89 ·
I have a P30sk V1 (LEM trigger) that I like and actually prefer as a carry pistol. I also recommend the VP9sk to students that like striker action firearms.

They have good capacity in their 9mm variations, and are very compact, with good ambidextrous controls. I find them comfortable and accurate to shoot.
My P7 is even more accurate than my German Mastershop X5-L1... Now that's saying something as the X5 is incredible.
 
#12 ·
If you buy a p2k or p2ksk before the end of the year the have a debate for an additional 4 mags.

I just picked up a p2k in 40 from PSA for $500 on sale. It was a v2 LEM. The first couple of days that I had It, I was a little unsure about It, but it is really growing on me. It needed a GG short reset kit imho, so I added one.

The p2k is about as close to G19 size in a hammer gun that you can get. The p30 is not G45 size.

The p2k in LEM is a great cc option. The bobbed hammer won't dig into you, and the texture on the sides is very easy on the skin.
 
#13 ·
I own the HK .45C and have shot the P30 my son owns from his amazing father.
P30 trigger takes some getting used to would be an understatement.
45C trigger is much better but no way near my P226 and P229 and not even in the same zipcode as my Kimber 1911's
The .45C is fun as hell to shoot and I'm getting better with it for sure.
 
#14 · (Edited)
I haven't owned an HK in quite a while, it was a USP 9, about twenty years ago.
I know some of you are fans of HK, and I've seen talk about the two models I was going to ask your opinion about, on here.
I like the feel of the P30 V3 DA/SA, but haven't shot one.
I wasn't really impressed with the P2000 V3 DA/SA, but the more I look at it the more I like it.

Can you tell me which you prefer and why? Accuracy I can expect?

If I get one I'll probably put the Gray Guns SRT and flat trigger in.

Btw, pictures are welcome.
H&K hammer fired guns tend to be very reliable, have a great finish, excellent build quality, and ergonomic likes the P30. However their DA/SA triggers are mediocre which is why many opt for LEM variant or Bruce Grey mods. A Sig DA/SA trigger is much superior to an HK DA/SA trigger.

Another issue you may run into if you run red dots is that HK does not offer optic ready hammer fired pistols, only their VP9 series comes optic ready.

However, take a look at the VP9 (any optic ready variant), the trigger on that is hands down one of the best striker triggers on the market, great finish, reliable, high quality. I just picked this up, my first H&K in a long time.

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#17 ·
I’m a huge HK fan and would suggest the P30 between the P30 and the P2000. Having said that, I’d consider a VP9. Has the best of the P30 and had ”ears” on the slide to ease in racking the slide. You can also put a red dot on ‘em.

I’m a huge Sig fan as well - although it’s neck and neck in my collection as which is “winning” - HK or Sig.

I don’t care for the plastic 320s, but like the metal AXGs. My EDC varies between a 229 and a VP9. I’ve got lots more trigger time on the Sigs but you really can’t go wrong with the HKs.
 
#18 ·
I’m a huge Sig fan as well - although it’s neck and neck in my collection as which is “winning” - HK or Sig.
My EDC varies between a P30SK and a P224…definitely a toss up! 😉

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#19 ·
You guys are impressing me more, but the choice isn't any easier. 😄

I gotta admit, the LEM isn't intriguing enough so far, I don't mind the DA/SA transition, I've shot them like that before, including a Beretta 92, a 239, and many others. I have leaned primarily towards striker fired, especially for carry, for several years now. So you'd think it'd be appealing.

Just for information, what's the pull on the LEM Light? About 5#? You can still add the GG SRT kit and flay trigger?
 
#20 ·
I have plenty of HKs and Sigs, and in my opinion, for hammer fired there isn’t an HK that can hold a candle to the 226 and 229 Legion. DA/SA is not HK’s strong suit and the LEM trigger is awful. There’s a reason not another gun manufacturer uses anything resembling the LEM. Now if you’re talking VP9s it’s an entirely different story - particularly now they’ve gone Optic Ready. I get it, it’s striker fired but it’s a great gun and the VP9SK is a much better gun, IMO, than the P30SK - which I own with a, wait for it, LEM trigger. If you’re looking for .45 the HK 45 is a great gun, but like all HKs except the VP9 family, does not come optic ready, if that’s your thing. I have 5 VP9s and they have nailed everything but my Legions to the bench. I don’t dislike HKs. I own more than my fair share and I’ve moved on from more than a few, but all of their hammer guns are rooted in the past and HK doesn’t do anything to modernize them and bring new options to the table the way Sig does.
 
#88 · (Edited)
I have plenty of HKs and Sigs, and in my opinion, for hammer fired there isn’t an HK that can hold a candle to the 226 and 229 Legion. DA/SA is not HK’s strong suit and the LEM trigger is awful. There’s a reason not another gun manufacturer uses anything resembling the LEM. Now if you’re talking VP9s it’s an entirely different story - particularly now they’ve gone Optic Ready. I get it, it’s striker fired but it’s a great gun and the VP9SK is a much better gun, IMO, than the P30SK - which I own with a, wait for it, LEM trigger. If you’re looking for .45 the HK 45 is a great gun, but like all HKs except the VP9 family, does not come optic ready, if that’s your thing. I have 5 VP9s and they have nailed everything but my Legions to the bench. I don’t dislike HKs. I own more than my fair share and I’ve moved on from more than a few, but all of their hammer guns are rooted in the past and HK doesn’t do anything to modernize them and bring new options to the table the way Sig does.
P30s and especially P2000s LEMs are noticeably poorer than the USP LEM. The have a longer reset compared to the USP LEM. A Grayguns SRT will help.
 
#22 ·
I think the triggers on the p2000 & p2000sk pistols are better than the p30. Also like others have said the p2000 line of pistols are a better choice for a CC pistol. For a duty pistol in a OWB holster, nightstand gun or range blaster I would take a p30 or p30L everytime. (The p30sk is excellent too)

Sadly I don’t have any of my 9mm HK pistols anymore. But when I did they were all da/sa v3 as I could never warm up to the LEM system no matter how much I shot them. A lot of people really like the LEM, I was just one of the few that did not.

Currently all of my HK pistols are .45 acp, USP 45, HK45 T, HK45 C. Will more than likely get a USP 45 C soon to add to the pile. Can’t recommend these pistols enough.

Since you are looking at 9’s a USP 9 C would also be excellent pistol choice for you. Out of the ones you listed I would take a p2000 (v3)
 
#23 ·
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I like the feel of the P30 V3 DA/SA, but haven't shot one.
I wasn't really impressed with the P2000 V3 DA/SA, but the more I look at it the more I like it.
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For concealed carry, the P2000 is best because of it's slim profile. But it's slick non-aggressive grip will cause your hands to slip if your hands get sweaty. The P30 solves that issue, and it's batman grip is more ergo for sure.

Try before you buy if you can.
 
#24 ·
I can tell you, from what I know, from researching, and from listening to all of you, I will eventually own both the P2000 and the P30.
I think right now I have it narrowed down to the P2000 and the P30 SK, after seeing the extended grip on the SK. So eventually I may own all three? Gesh. I still can't decide between the two, but it would be nice to carry sometimes.

I'm still not leaning towards the LEM. I haven't decided on whether to get one with a safety to carry C&L, or without a safety...yet.

Still open to comments and opinions, taking account of all of your advice and experience. Thanks again.
 
#25 ·
I’ll admit the light LEM on my P30SK for me took some time adjusting to. I had to learn to pull straight through as it’s different than DA/SA. However, oddly my wife and my son’s fiancée both prefer shooting it and they shoot very well with it so…
 
#27 ·
Don’t wait too long. This from the HK site.

All New P2000, P2000SK & VP Models
4 FREE MAGAZINES*
Offer Valid on Purchases Completed October 15 – December 31, 2023
Must Be Redeemed by January 31, 2024. Rebate Valid Until February 29, 2024.
1) Purchase any new P2000 or VP Model Handguns
2) Upload your receipt and serial number below
3) HK will send rebate via e-mail to address used in the redemption *Rebate will be in the form of HK BUCKS: $200 towards HK’s webshop to be used towards your choice of magazines, swag, & more!
 
#29 ·
Rarely ever carried mine with the safety engaged. I would decock them and carry with the lever on fire. In that way it was like carrying the classic p series Sig Sauer pistols.

If your gun is da/sa and you have the multifunction lever you have several different way to carry. The v3 p2000’s kind of simplify it which is part of why I prefer them. They are simple and reliable to the point of being boring.

One thing to keep in mind with the p30 series is that nice grip texture that sticks to you hand will not play well with your skin or clothes where ever you carry it. I’ve still got T-shirts with holes and worn spots from carrying a p30s. P2000’s don’t have that issue, and if they are “too slick” you can get one of the Houge slip on grips for it easily enough.
 
#30 ·
I haven't owned an HK in quite a while, it was a USP 9, about twenty years ago.
I know some of you are fans of HK, and I've seen talk about the two models I was going to ask your opinion about, on here.
I like the feel of the P30 V3 DA/SA, but haven't shot one.
I wasn't really impressed with the P2000 V3 DA/SA, but the more I look at it the more I like it.

Can you tell me which you prefer and why? Accuracy I can expect?

If I get one I'll probably put the Gray Guns SRT and flat trigger in.

Btw, pictures are welcome.
P30 or VP9. In your case the P30 , accuracy as usual with an H/K will be very good , function and reliability as well.

The drawback with H/K is customer service whenever Gunter gets around to it of Hilda decides to answer the phone.

By the way the P30 and VP9 use the same mags and the same leather will work for both. I'm quite happy with both of them.