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My issue with the TX22 isn't the gun itself. It's with Taurus. My experience with their customer service, where it took them four months to do a simple repair on two pistols of mine is typical. They also will not sell replacement parts to end users, meaning if your gun needs anything you have no choice but to send it back to them, even for something as simple as an extractor spring. By contrast SIG fixes guns and sends them back within two weeks on average, and there are countless places to buy their replacement parts.

I do understand Taurus has been doing great things with a lot of their newer products lately. They just need to get on the ball with their service after the sale.
 
Ive got 4000 rounds through my TX-22 Competition and it has run like a freight train. I put three more mags through my P322 today and no issues. I’ve put nearly 400 rounds through it in the last week and it has been great. I feel confident that the P322 is going to be a huge success.
 
I just wanted to chime in with some of my experiences with these two guns.
I’d gotten one of the early TX22s. It ran great but it did have the rifling issues commonly noted. Didn’t seem to affect it but over some time the slide nose began to chew up the interior of the frame pretty badly. Looked to be an over travel issue.
I contacted Taurus CS, not easy, and they sent me a label for return. It probably took them about 6 weeks to assess this was not repairable and it would be replaced. Ok, but that took the service ticket out of the queue and I had to contact them again to confirm this and find out the new ticket number. It was another 6 weeks to get the thing back and if I’d not contacted them might have taken longer as that contact seemed to prompt communication regarding FFL info. Ultimately they did ok but not exactly easily.
Unfortunately my reasonable experience was tempered by someone on the same message boards having the same issue but it had also cracked the slide nose. They replaced his slide and recoil spring and sent it back, also taking about 12 weeks to do so. I don’t think he got a fair shake.
But I do really like the Taurus overall for what it is, which is a budget gun that has a lot of full size feel/feature. It runs well, is accurate enough, and is damn fun. Plus I got it when rebates were on and prices were in the $250-$260 range at many places. So it was cheap. So, when the 322 was unveiled as a 20 rd along with the other features it has and at its price point I was all in!
I’ve got a few hundred rounds of auto-match through it so far, all suppressed. It has run good. One mag seems to want to stand the last round up. I haven’t had time to clean the mag or look further into it. The other has been good so far. No ejection or other feeding issues. I may have had one click-no-bang, which doesn’t seem uncommon for the auto-match through a number of guns, but it went when I recocked the gun and gave it a 2nd strike.
I’ve found it to be quite a bit more accurate than the Taurus, but I’ve not really shot much from a rest. Just standing from about 10-12 yds and picking off the little target repair stickers (that distance is about as good as I can see em anyhow), is short work for the 322. With the Taurus I can usually get them surrounded. I think the solidly fixed barrel makes a big difference in this regard.
Takedown is a breeze and even suppressed the thing doesn’t get as cruddy as I’d expect. I think the open ejection port probably helps keep a lot of debris out of the FCU. In the Taurus there is actually some lead scale that deposits itself inside the slide and the FCU picks up a lot of grit and grime.
Ultimately I’d expect that doing a deep clean of this should be no more difficult than just about any other 22 I’ve got. Some people might object to driving out pins but it’s a necessary evil to get into the guts of a rimfire once in a while, especially if a suppressor is helping to fill it up! It looks like the FP channel is maybe only easily serviced by taking out the breech block but that doesn’t look too bad either. I expect that there will be some video tutorials available fairly soon.
So far I see this as an affordable step up from the Taurus, while I still see that as a great gun. Hopefully I’ll never have an issue with SIG CS. I don’t see this as a one or the other situation. I think I can appreciate both. I’ll still need to get the first-impression review from the grandkids, though!
 
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My issue with the TX22 isn't the gun itself. It's with Taurus. My experience with their customer service, where it took them four months to do a simple repair on two pistols of mine is typical. They also will not sell replacement parts to end users, meaning if your gun needs anything you have no choice but to send it back to them, even for something as simple as an extractor spring. By contrast SIG fixes guns and sends them back within two weeks on average, and there are countless places to buy their replacement parts.

I do understand Taurus has been doing great things with a lot of their newer products lately. They just need to get on the ball with their service after the sale.
I actually had nearly the opposite experience a month after I bought the TX22. Allegedly the known bad barrel problem from the 1st batch of TX22's was fixed, but I called/emailed Taurus support with pics of incomplete rifling in mine, as I got a bad barrel long after the first batch. And yes, at the very beginning of our conversation the support rep did say I should send in the wh9le gun; but with very minimal push-back from me saying, "hey its clearly just the barrel", they cincurred cwith my assessment and quickly agreed to send me a just a replacement barrel.

Indeed, all the Taurus I've had over the years have had lifetime warranties, which TaurusUSA has always honored; even when 99% of their guns were still made in Brazil.

But my Sig support has been equally good thus far on the 3 I have owned. So now downsides there.

Obviously Sig is a more premium brand, but ever since Taurus switched to USA manufacturing, I swear their guns are of truly of impressive quality for amazingly low prices they are sold at (honeslty I feel they haveas food manufacturing controls as Glock now)... And Taurus' 1911's are nothing the sneer at.

I further feel that way after this recent suprising experience:

Saturday I shot my range's new rental Taurus GX4 for the first time, (the GX4 being Taurus' subcompact 9mm), and I shot it immediately after shooting their rental P365 (which admittedly has seen a ton of rounds)... And after shooting both the p365 qnd GX4 sode by side; I have to say, I honestly think the GX4 has a far better trigger and a lighter recoil profile than the Sig p365 (but if you have weak wrists/arms, the GX4 would be very hard to rack - it kay be thay the strong recoil spring is whats reducing the felt recoil I experienced on in the GX4).

UPDATE to that video I posted about the guy with new p322 feeding problems - it was the mags, and he was able to fix one of the mags


After cleaning his gun and both mags, his P322 works perfect with one of the mags, but still has the same issues with the other mag. Bottom line though: the problems he had in that video were from the P322 mags, not from the gun itself.
 
They also will not sell replacement parts to end users, meaning if your gun needs anything you have no choice but to send it back to them,
Small parts and frame parts? No.. but..


I have an entire backup slide laying around in case the day comes I might need it. @$99 it’s okay if I never have to use it. I doubt I’m ever parting wit my TX22 but, if I did I could also list the spare slide for sale too.
 
Hmm, so it seems like one of the best reasons for all of us TX22 owners to run out and buy the Sig is so that we will have something to shoot while we wait for the Taurus to come back from repair.


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I have never needed to send a Taurus back for repair so I can't comment on the CS. I bought my first TX22 years ago when they first came out. I kept track and got my first failure, a dud CCI round at shot number 2010. I bought a second TX22 just because I like the gun so much. So far I've had more malfunctions with the P322 in a week, mostly magazine related and my fault, then I've had with the TX22 in years, so take that for what it's worth. Most people judge Taurus because of the failed polymer pistols they came out with in a rush to get into the market. The latest TX, and G series are a whole different breed. I have had good luck with all their 80\s production and the G3 which I would not hesitate to carry.
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Wife and I shot the P322 the other day at Sig Freedom Days. She shot the model with the red dot and I the standard irons. Wife liked it and so did I. But, the trigger on the Taurus is lighter. Fiber optic front site on the Sig is nice but for the money I'd rather have the lighter trigger on the TX22.
 
I’d reported earlier here that one magazine was giving me some issues with the last round or two wanting to stand up in a stovepipe fashion feeding failure. I took the mag in question apart and gave it a swab/brushing. Under a bit of light and magnification I could see a little bit of plastic flash just below the ramp section of the mag and even along the feed lip interior.
I gently scraped a bit along these areas with the trailing edge of a utility knife blade and the excess flash peeled away easily; I didn’t want to be very aggressive with it and alter anything. These spots were in clear contrast to the same areas of the one that was giving no problem.
Returning to the range with these and they now have been running fine with no further feeding issue.
Say what you will about how a gun should be uber reliable out of the box but there’s a reason why there are so few high capacity rimfire models and why so many commonly had a very steep mag angle; 22lr is a terrible fit for a semi-auto. We should appreciate the innovation needed to field a few of these that work pretty well in a hi-cap design. Heck, even a certain really big player in the handgun game didn’t think they could get it right despite claiming 3 odd years of R&D and 15 bazillion rounds tested, or some such.
I do like the TX trigger better, though.
 
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I’d reported earlier here that one magazine was giving me some issues with the last round or two wanting to stand up in a stovepipe fashion feeding failure. I took the mag in question apart and gave it a swab/brushing. Under a bit of light and magnification I could see a little bit of plastic flash just below the ramp section of the mag and even along the feed lip interior.
To be fair I also took a brass brush to one of my TX22 mags. I had an incident of stack-locking (not really rim locking, just rounds stuck at a weird angle not making it the top of the mag funnel) in one of my extended mags - but only when manually unloading the mag. Even so, I decided that, just in case it ever happened when firing it, that I would do what I saw other people do online for other 22lr plastic mags with feed issues - particularly ones that were getting that kind of stack-locking towards the feed funnel where the mag goes from double to single stack and rounds can get stuck at odd angles, where the 22 rim can catch against the corners of the plastic.

I never saw the issue when the mag was in use, and only if i don't push the rounds straight foward when emptying the mag did i get that stacking lockup. But, seeing it worried me enough that I did that cleaning, and I took 800grit sand paper to the inside of that mag.

Then even when I ripped the round straight up out of the feed lips, the next round seated for feeding correctly.

So I can vouch that brass brush and fine sanding helps mags even if the problem is only occuring when you manually empty the mag by hand.

So I would imagine the technique would help with feeding issues on the P322 mags when actually firing.
 
Should I consider buying a P322 even though I love my Olive Drab TX22, with 20rd extended mags, and that I got from GrabAGun.com for $230?

The P322, out of stock everywhere already, goes for $400+; at least it did when in stock.

The TX22 won a couple "Gun of the Year" awards from the gun mags, and its trigger is amazing (specially for <$250), while the P322 looks to have an OK trigger between 4 to 6 lbs (My TX22 breaks crisp at 3lbs 7oz average).

But I LOVE the 20rd stock capacity in the P322, and extended mags will make it even more impressive.

So TX22's Low Price + great Trigger vs P322 Amazing Capacity + OK trigger.

I use a laser not a red dot on 22's - so much fun using a laser when plinking with a 22. So I didnt buy the $300+ cut away version of the TX22, nor the competition version with the fixed RMR mount.

Other than the Capacity, Price, and Trigger, their specs are practically identical.

My TX22:
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Is that a laser or micro light under your barrel? It looks awesome, but I'm looking for the most compact light possible for my tx22 and I really like the design and looks on yours. Thanks in advance.
 
I have a 322 and a TX22. I like the TX but have parked it due to very poor experiences with Taurus.

Had ongoing problems with a simple mag order for the TX that they seemed unwilling or unable to resolve.

Tried twice to order a Comp slide kit. Each time it still showed in stock a day or so after my order. Time went by and no shipping notice. Chased CS down and was told out of stock. On the first one they did not know if they charged me (credit card company cleared it up). Amazing that a company did not know the status of a charge. Had to chase CS more for a credit card refund on the second one. They had no explanation why they showed items in stock even after my sales went through, and charged a card on the second one, when they did not have the product (simple inventory control like other firms commonly use prevents this).

Those three experiences turned me off to Taurus. It has been way easier to deal with Sig and Glock (I also have a 44) on orders, questions, and anything else.

No issues with any of those three pistols.
 
I've never had to send a Taurus product back and I've ordered a lot of Taurus products over the last three decades. It seems hit and miss with the Company though. I've heard enough problems to make me sure their CS needs work, I currently have a request in to Sig for a work order on my P322. I'm curious to see how their response is. My two TX22's are fine guns with a minimum of .22 cartridge type failures, I can't say the same for the P322. Light strikes galore, Failure to feed, and magazine problems.
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