Let’s see a pic of the gun/optic.

 

Looks/reads like a complete (cheaper) Hong Kong knockoff of the Chinese HS507k.

 

Holosun, much better.

 

There seems to be a lot of affordable, fairly feature heavy red dots coming out of China - or certainly made of Chinese components - these days. The big issue with running these on carry guns is how robust they are. An aluminum body is a good start, but will the window stay in place, or in one piece, the first time it is dropped? Top loading battery is a big plus. This was typically not the hallmark of inexpensive dots, but seems to be showing up more and more. And multi-reticle is a big value add. For $160 most can afford to try it out and make their own mind up. At worst it will probably be a decent optic for a range gun. For an optic that I’m banking my life on I would invest in a proven brand name.

FWIW, i just installed a Meprolight MPO-S on my Radian Ramjet P365. Made in Israel.

 

We have 2 P365XL's that both wear a 507K. It just works through 2000 rds per copy. Will it make it to 5000? I don't know but it works well enough to carry and trust my life. If the dot goes down and you're at close self defense distances, back plate shooting or the irons certainly work well.

 

Many red dots are mad in China! I have two Vortex Defenders, and I trust my life to them as well as the Fox Army!! American optics are way more expensive! Ad for the replier who wanted a pic, sorry but thus OLD sailor lacks the ability to post pics! "TOO OLD TO FIGHT, TOO SLOW TO RUN, BUT I CAN STILL SHOOT PRETTY DAMN GOOD!!!"

 

I went wiht eps carry green mrs"s on my three EDC's just to keep apples to apples thus far no issues

 

I've never heard of this optic.

Window size is almost the same as the R X Compact. Feature set and reticle looks like a copy/paste of a Holosun 507k, down to the exact same 10 daylight and 2 NV settings.

Interesting marketing claim of "capable of withstanding drops of up to 5 meters". 5 meters is up there. I don't think even Aaron Cowan is that tall.

Top mounted battery is a plus. Certainly one of the more affordable optics I've seen. Looks like made in Hong Kong, as noted above.

Hey if it works, great.

 

It's a good price and I'm more than satisfied with its performance! What I really like is the dot within a circle sight. Makes for very easy sight acquisition! I've run a lot of rounds through the combination, and everything performs flawlessly!! Bet my life on it?? I already am!!!

 

You sound pretty excited about it, all caps with every reply.
I have a harder time getting excited about cheaper optics that no one has ever heard of.

 

I went with the 507k, wanted a bigger window for IDPA. Tried out the Cross Armory Shadow RD. Direct mount RMSc. So far around 1,000 with it and 2 matches, no issues. Holds the zero. My one issue, which I knew about, bottom battery I know, I know….

 

That bottom battery was a deal breaker for me on several red dots!! Especially when the red dot is Loctited down!!

 

Absolutely! Removing the screws is when half of the people breaking screws have them fail.

 

That's what I have against bottom batteries!!That and having to re-zero!!

 

My plan is to use this for a bit. Then get a plate and go to the 507 comp for the IDPA.

 

I would gladly immerse my red dot in water, except it is mounted on my P365X. 30 minutes is the standard and if I had known there was going to be this topic, I may have tried it! I'm sure people buy products every day that the manufacturer has made claims about, that go untested. Optics are a case in point! I don't intend to challenge the makers claim. The ball's in your court.....

 

Except in this case the maker doesn't make a claim about IPX7. What does that tell you about the quality of this optic?

The maker of this optic also says "The FXV22 is highly impact-resistant, capable of withstanding drops from heights of up to 5 meters".

I'm an engineer. What are the units of "highly impact-resistant"? 5 meters is over 16 feet in the air. You are going to tell me they've dropped the optic from 16 feet in the air and it landed on the shroud with no damage and continued to operate? Really? An optic with a glass lens? (by the way, is the lens glass?) Why? Aaron Cowan drop tests his optics at arms length, say 4 feet, or just over a meter, because that's what might actually happen to someone. Why would an optic maker drop test from 16? That is just an odd choice.

Military eye wear is tested to MIL-PRF-32432A "Performance Specification: Military Combat Eye Protection System (MCEPS)". That is what you call an impact test. What tests do Fox Army do to claim they are "highly impact-resistant"?

The maker further claims "It can withstand extreme recoil, having successfully passed a 5,000 round test with 9mm ammunition".

What are the units of "extreme recoil"? What is "extreme"? What is "successful"? What 9mm ammunition was used? Winchester White Box? Did they use +p?


Bottom line, unless you have some data, these are all advertising slogans and manufacturers jargon, and don't do anything to objectively quantify the performance of this product in any meaningful way.


But that's not the real question here.

You come on the site and with your first thread, proudly state "I have a Fox Army FXV22 PRO mounted on my P365X and it's a great red dot!"

Cool. Everybody wants a cheap optic.

But if you are going to recommend a red dot for a gun, you should expect people to ask why, and for you to back it up. That's why you are getting push back.

Not because of your choice of optic. It's because of your relentless and enthusiastic pushing of this product. You are welcome to use whatever you want, at whatever price point you want to operate at. You do you.

Others are going to make their own choices, and may be leaning towards a higher quality, proven product, from a known manufacturer with US based customer service, that's been on the market for a while, but at a price point above this Fox optic. Examples might include a Sig Romeo X, or Holosun's k series, or Vortex Defender line, to name a few.

If you can provide some data to back up why they might not want to do that, and purchase this Fox Army thing instead, I'm sure this thread would be a lot more interesting to people.

 

In fact, I have 2 Vortex Defenders on A .45 acp and a 9mm. These are both larger frame pistols and I can shoot the heck out of silhouette targets with them. I chose the Fox Army because of the compact size and features I liked/wanted for my P365X. It makes a great pocket pistol combination when needed.
I'm no engineer, but I understand your arguments. I have over 20 years military experience handling firearms of various types. I cut my 'pistol teeth' on a Gov't .45. It took me awhile to warm to red dots un till I got a chance to use one at the range. that was an eye-opening experience. Sorry if I'm overly enthusiastic. I just pitched the soapbox in the trash. Adios.