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How would you add an Optic to a non optic ready slide on a budget?

2.5K views 55 replies 21 participants last post by  iceman17930  
#1 · (Edited)
I can't seem to make this mistake post go away, so I guess I'll start another post. Does anyone have any interest in seeing the simple inexpensive way I found to add an optic to a slide not cut for an optic? I tried a couple of different products and methods and found a relatively inexpensive way to mount an optic without having the slide cut and re ceracoated.
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I am curious to see what that looks like. Could you post a link? I don't use optics on my carry guns, and all of my 229s are carry guns. But if that adaptor is stable and not too high profile, I would consider it for my 226.
 
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I am curious as to how you have done it, I would put a small bead of polyurethane caulk, set the sight in place and let it cure. It will never go anywhere. When I was in aircraft there are a lot of parts joined together with adhesives and they are never coming apart.
You would be able to cut the sight off with a razor blade and clean up the slide after.
 
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I appreciate your input. I think if you are looking to mount an optic inexpensively and you choose a quality steel plate instead of an aluminum one. You will have success. The other thing to do, is follow the directions. Pick the cheap aluminum plate and you'll be chasing your optic at the range. Pick quality and install it correctly and odds are you will have success.
Any optic will fail if you don't follow proper procedure and torque spec.
 
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These are dovetail mount optics plates specifically designed to fit the 320 and 365. High grade stainless with set screws that expand the dovetail to lock it in place. This one is for the P320 and RMR optic footprint. These fit with precision and are extremly secure.
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#12 ·
Cool beans. When your optic goes flying off your pistol you’ll have wished you’d spent the coin on having it direct milled. It’s not an “if,” it’s a “when.”

For future reference, I’ve had great experiences with both Jaegerwerks and Vulcan Machine Werks. Although I’d bet both of them have stopped doing work on P320’s for obvious reasons, so you may be out of luck with those models.
 
#13 · (Edited)
The Trijicon AC32095 RMRcc mounts fit on the 365 and 320. ADE makes a pretty inexpensive RMRcc optic but you need to swap the screws and drill the optic out 2 times to use it. Ill post photos of the process, optic, screw sizes and bits later. Just not at my shop now.
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#15 ·
Sometimes it's not worth milling a slide, these are all slides I got on sale or left overs from donor pistols I bought for parts. I'm having a good time gun coating them, shooting them and adapting them for other things at the range.
I have loads of milled slides and they are clearly superior. But I don't keep my head in the sand and think it's the only way. I'm always looking for options and a way to do things myself, things that anyone with a few tools, a little mechanical aptitude on a budget.
 
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Trust me, these work and work very good. I have thousands of rounds through them and none have loosened up or moved. Buy the good ones, install it intelligently and you won't have problems.
Buy the junk, install it like and idiot and enjoy endless frustration.
 
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This is the Trijicon RMRcc optics plate and the NUWAcc optic from ADE. The optic fits the plate just perfect. But the NUWAcc comes with 4-40 1/4" screws. The optics plate takes 5-40 1/4" screws and they don't fit the optic.
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I first drill the screw holes with 1/8" bit, then drill the larger holes with the 13/64" bit to the level of the first hole to accommodate the larger screw head. I use a black paint marker to cover the freshly drilled area.
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Now the optic fits snug and perfect on the plate. The 5-40 1/4" screws I got on Amazon 24ea for like $8 total. Now I have a good range optic for under $120, the optic plates I've bought from $25 to $75, but average about $50 from GB and Ebay. I'm under $200 to install an optic. I think this is a good range option, EDC I'd go with a cut slide and a quality optic.
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#23 ·
All I have to do now, is remove the rear sight, install the optics plate in the dovetail with a brass punch and tighten the Allen screws. It has been my experice it is best to remove the loctite thats on the Allen screws before you install them and use fresh blue locktite. The old stuff can bind up before you get the screws fully set and you can strip the screw. They just need to be flush to lock the plate in place.
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When you are enlarging holes like that for Allen cap screws a counterbore is very handy. First it will make a flat bottom for the head to sit on and there are pilots available to keep everything centered.
I have several complete sets in 1/32 increment but you will find a few sizes you will use most.
 
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Now install the optic with the 5-40 screws and torque to 12 inch lbs. I dare say thousands of rounds through the 10 or so of these exact ones I installed. No plate movement and no optics faure. They do need battery changes more often(800-1000 hrs), but for the purchase price its a good trade off. Especially for a range toy.
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I bought a bunch of non optic stripped slides from Brownells on clearance. Built them, bought grips and gave them away to family and friends with LTCs who brought me a legally purchased FCU or donor pistol.
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#30 ·
Did that 320 try to shoot you yet? Inquiring minds want to know
 
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I am happy to report, the P320 has not shot me yet. It does look at me suspiciously and I know it wants to shoot me. It just needs someone to pull the trigger.