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Discussion starter · #21 ·
I first drill the screw holes with 1/8" bit, then drill the larger holes with the 13/64" bit to the level of the first hole to accommodate the larger screw head. I use a black paint marker to cover the freshly drilled area.
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Discussion starter · #22 ·
Now the optic fits snug and perfect on the plate. The 5-40 1/4" screws I got on Amazon 24ea for like $8 total. Now I have a good range optic for under $120, the optic plates I've bought from $25 to $75, but average about $50 from GB and Ebay. I'm under $200 to install an optic. I think this is a good range option, EDC I'd go with a cut slide and a quality optic.
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Discussion starter · #23 ·
All I have to do now, is remove the rear sight, install the optics plate in the dovetail with a brass punch and tighten the Allen screws. It has been my experice it is best to remove the loctite thats on the Allen screws before you install them and use fresh blue locktite. The old stuff can bind up before you get the screws fully set and you can strip the screw. They just need to be flush to lock the plate in place.
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Discussion starter · #24 ·
Now install the optic with the 5-40 screws and torque to 12 inch lbs. I dare say thousands of rounds through the 10 or so of these exact ones I installed. No plate movement and no optics faure. They do need battery changes more often(800-1000 hrs), but for the purchase price its a good trade off. Especially for a range toy.
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All I have to do now, is remove the rear sight, install the optics plate in the dovetail with a brass punch and tighten the Allen screws. It has been my experice it is best to remove the loctite thats on the Allen screws before you install them and use fresh blue locktite. The old stuff can bind up before you get the screws fully set and you can strip the screw. They just need to be flush to lock the plate in place. View attachment 674199
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When you are enlarging holes like that for Allen cap screws a counterbore is very handy. First it will make a flat bottom for the head to sit on and there are pilots available to keep everything centered.
I have several complete sets in 1/32 increment but you will find a few sizes you will use most.
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
When you are enlarging holes like that for Allen cap screws a counterbore is very handy. First it will make a flat bottom for the head to sit on and there are pilots available to keep everything centered.
I have several complete sets in 1/32 increment but you will find a few sizes you will use most.
The hole size differnce is very minor. You could almost drill the holes by hand with just the bit.
This task is easy with tools many people have hanging around the shop. Nothing special, average Joe backyard gunsmithing almost anyone can do. That has been my mantra, keep it simple.
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
I bought a bunch of non optic stripped slides from Brownells on clearance. Built them, bought grips and gave them away to family and friends with LTCs who brought me a legally purchased FCU or donor pistol.
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Did that 320 try to shoot you yet? Inquiring minds want to know
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
I am happy to report, the P320 has not shot me yet. It does look at me suspiciously and I know it wants to shoot me. It just needs someone to pull the trigger.
 
Dovetail-mounted optic plates are legitimately one of the least reliable ways to mount an optic to a pistol. But you do you…
Carry pistol- milled or no optic. And no cheap optics.
Range/target/fun pistol- may be worth the cheaper option especially if you want to outfit a number of them. I prefer optics on all my pistols but that gets pricey.
 
Internet experts disagree.
Don't really care
I'm proof in the pudding- puddin
I've proved them an effective tool for mounting optics on 1911's, 2011's and Sig classic series mostly 226's
Bomar cuts, Novak cuts and regular dovetails on Sig's
Tuff to tell a guy that is doesn't work. when he's proven it to himself that it does!
 
Discussion starter · #38 ·
What magwell is on the ODG framed setup?
Something from Ebay for $13, really drives your hand into the Beavertail. I like it on the Tyrant grip better than the Tyrant model that actually belongs on it. Its a really comfortable stable grip. One of my favorites. Waiting on delivery of the new full size Tyrant Macro grip in black. Everything before was the snubnose.
 
Discussion starter · #39 ·
Don't really care
I'm proof in the pudding- puddin
I've proved them an effective tool for mounting optics on 1911's, 2011's and Sig classic series mostly 226's
Bomar cuts, Novak cuts and regular dovetails on Sig's
Tuff to tell a guy that is doesn't work. when he's proven it to himself that it does!
I agree, I've installed a dozen or more with thousands of rounds down range and no issues.
 
Discussion starter · #40 ·
That is the plate that matches the optic. The screws for the plate don't match the optic. Universal plates are mostly aluminum, most likely weaker and thicker because they need so many holes. This is low profile, very good quality and reliable. They also fit both the P320 and P365.
A Trijicon RMRcc optics cost is north of $500. The ADE optic is about $120, but you need to enlarge the holes. Easy fix to inexpensively mount a range optic on a slide not cut for it. Its not a perfect solution, but it is a very reliable, simple, cost effective solution for less money complete than cutting the slide and recoating the whole thing. Its also very quick. Takes me about 15 minutes, well after I spent hours figuring it all out.
 
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