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Help a suppressor stupid person please… 22LR & 5.56

5.4K views 21 replies 11 participants last post by  jmt3  
#1 · (Edited)
Edit: Just so folks know, I have my answer and have ordered my suppressors accordingly. Thanks for the help.

I’m not really very savvy on suppressors. I have none. However I’m considering getting one for a 22LR. I also have the desire for one for my ARs.

Knowing the bullet caliber diameter is the same but the pressures are very different I’m looking for a recommendation on what would work for both. Or is it a fools errand and I’m best off having one for each?

Ideally it would get used on a 22LR pistol, Rifle, and 5.56 Rifle and pistol.

Thanks.
 
#2 ·
Get a separate suppressor for your rimfire firearms. They can be taken apart for cleaning. While one for .223/5.56 works for both, not all can be taken apart to clean. Rimfire ammo produces a lot more soot and the also produce more lead deposits in the can. A .335/5.56 can is heavier and not as suitable for .22 pistols due to weight and diameter.
 
#3 ·
My cans are in ATF jail and do not presently have any.

After going shooting with a friend with several, I will more than likely get more. A suppressor on a Sub-Sonic firearm projectile makes a bigger difference than one on a super sonic projectile. Material selection of the suppressor is important on the 5.56 because it has a lot more heat energy to get rid of than the 22 LR.

Like you, I am learning so cannot give much advice other than keep doing your homework and dig up as much info as you can.
 
#7 ·
Each one will have its own tax stamp.
Trust deals with ownership and people with authority to possess and use the items the trust covers.

So if you get the cans as an individual then you must be present when others are using it. No one else can have access to them when you are not there. With a trust, other permitted persons (trustee’s) have the ability to possess the items within the trust. Again, when no one in the trust is around, then the items in the trust must be secure from others.

If you do an individual trust for each item, then you can later selectively add others to that trust after approval so you are only having to submit one set of fingerprints, photo’s etc. It allows for divvying up the NFA items when you pass and there is no contention as each would have its own beneficiary. Down side to a trust is that if you add more items to it then all the responsible people in the trust must submit new fingerprints and photos as well as signatures.
 
#10 ·
I would definitely get 2 different cans for 22 and 223. The separate tax stamps is a bummer but you got to pay to play. The 22 will get super dirty.
I have done all my nfa stuff as an individual but in hindsight i might have done a trust so my brother and i could swap our stuff around as we wish. The multiple prints and such would be a pain ever time i buy something else.
As far as transferring them to my sons, im under the impression that they will transfer on a form 5 for free when i die so no need for the trust.
I do need to check and see if they can go from an individual to a trust on death without paying the tax again but thats for another conversation.
 
#14 ·
Cans go on paper form 4 so it would be 2 cards per form. You could probably send all the forms together and one check with one set of cards but i think i would just send them separately. You could call the nfa branch of atf and ask. They are actually very helpful and easy-going.

Efile form ones you can send cover letters from each item and one set of cards.
 
#21 ·
Well I would say get 3 cans. One for .22 rimfire I like the SlincerCo Sparrow about $300 + stamp. Then since probably have a .223/5.56 AR or a few one specifically for that. Then think about something like the SlincerCo Hybrid 46. Will work rifle or pistol .22 like AR-15 to .46 caliber. Will work on 9mm or .45ACP pistol. AR-10 in .308/7.62 bolt action or lever action 45/70.
Now maybe not as efficient as a caliber specific can but still fun. Also on a pistol it is kind of big and even with supperossor height sights it's taller but with a little practice no problems. Plenty of videos online.
Now if you have a Slincer Shop dealer near you with a kiosk its way to easy. Make account on Slincer Shop find local dealer with kiosk if you can. Buy can online with Slincer Shop go to kiosk do finger prints snap photo with phone sign all paperwork on smartphone and wait for phone call from local Slincer Shop dealer about 9 months later. Also if you have a local Slincer Shop dealer and they have a can in stock you want you can buy can from local dealer and do all paperwork through Slincer Shop kiosk and online then they link the item and paperwork. Also as many spoke about a trust. Slincer Shop had a single shot trust like $25 and other trust also.
Only need a Slincer Shop dealer with kiosk smartphone credit card and about 9-12 months. They make it to easy also plenty of offers this time of year like "free tax stamp"
 
#22 ·
Whether as a trust or individual an NFA item can be transferred to a beneficiary of an estate without paying additional tax.
So if you don't need the complexity of a trust a transfer to an individual via Form 4 is probably the best method. ATF is in the process of OK'ing the use of electronic Form 4s. Hopefully this will shorten the long wait that tax paid transfers are subjected to at present. ATF requires two fingerprint cards per item being transferred. As to why Silencer Central was able to submit on two instead of four cards, I suspect they are able to deliver the cards electronically and thus could duplicate the cards. The fingerprint cards go to the FBI for the background check and the FBI wants two cards per item. The Feds love duplicates.