Nope. Buy the real things.

 

Yes of course, I'm not saying I'm looking to buy these in replacement of a 226, I already got into the Signess, especially with my tacops never leaving my side. But, this post was more of to just gather information about them, to see which one should I get just to end up "torturing" since I doubt anyone in the right mind would want to "torture" an actual sig just for the heck of it.

 

There was a member, IIRC in the past 12 months, had a "problem" with one of the "Dlask" models you referenced. Don't remember if he "ironed out" his magazine catch problem or not. http://sigtalk.com/gun-projects/216361-p228-80-advice-needed.html http://sigtalk.com/sig-sauer-gunsmithing/250809-p229-mags-wont-insert.html

If you are looking for something similar, look at some of the older Astra models, such as the A80, A90, or A100. Just enough "differences" to avoid patent infringement, but enough of them made, to at least offer some replacement parts availability.

 

Totally forgot about the Astra ones, too bad the used gun market here isn't too "search friendly" where you can find a specific model. Would be interesting to shoot and have some fun with on a considerably "disposable" gun given its price point.

 

If you want to torture the heck out of a SIG - get one in stainless steel, lube it well and have fun.

 

Damn but once that Sig comes home, Imma be treating it like my first born. It's as if I can't manage to get myself to full-on look forward to torturing an item if it were of value, would be fun to check out though. If only money grew on trees... Though I won't be surprised if any Sig, regardless of frame material, will go through the torture as long as the barrel and action isn't obstructed.

 

I learned my lesson (the hard way) about buying cheap knock off copies of anything.

Buy the real thing. You'll be better off in the long run.

I can tell you from experience that if you want a Colt Single Action Army,
then buy a Colt SAA.

EVERYTHING else is a complete waste of money.

The same thing also applies to SIG pistols.

 

My bad, I did mention it was Zastava that made them but totally slipped my mind that they were produced in Serbia. Stupid rookie mistake by me.

Thank you for the comprehensive review on it though! I actually considered going home with one just for the heck of it instead of buying a cheaper tupperware gun just so I can have a disposable firearm, they are, in no way, viewed as a replacement for a real Sig. I know full well how wonderful a sig is and would never trade mine for much any other pistol out there. I just like the ergonomics of the Sig and would want to keep the feel the same for a gun of a cheaper quality which I can play around with. :lol:

 

Back in the mid 90's, I had a "Dlask" 228 for about, oh.... TWO days!
I came across one at a Tucson gun store, that at the time was a pretty big importer as well (B West was the import side).
As I recall, they were about half the price of a Sig 228, and it seemed like a very true clone.
Went home with it, give it an inspection and lube, then headed for my spot in the desert.
I don't think I made it through 50 rds, and notice the frame rail on one side PEELING away from the frame when the slide was locked back after the 3rd or 4th mag!! The whole rail was cracked, with about half already seperated.
It was to late to head into town and deal with it that day, so took it there the next, immediately after work.
I asked for the manager on duty(who happened to be the owners son), and he didn't look at it for more than a few seconds and asked if I want a refund or store credit.

Being an importer they were really hyping this new "Canadian Sig" they were bringing in as I recall, but they soon disappeared. I asked months later and was told "until they get their heat treat issues resolved" or something like that.
I've never seen one since but have heard of Dlask parts kits being out there... go figure

 

Thank you for sharing your story. Heard most of the Dlask clones in the country were shipped elsewhere. Never heard from those that shipped them out or its users since. I always thought the manufacturing company went bankrupt though?

 

In my experience, reproduction or alternate parts come either one of two ways; superior to the original or inferior to the original.

Quality is appreciated long after the sting of higher price is forgotten, but cheap can only overlook so many faults when absolute failure is involved.

Dlask is an interesting story.

 

Insightful quote you got there. Damn that's almost like surplus heaven :lol:

 

So... everyone here claiming never buy a clone or knock off... this question is for you.. Would you prefer a Colt AR-15 or a Daniels Defense? How about a colt 1911 over a Wilson?

My point is as patents expire other companies start to build on the success of a product. In many cases they even start to exceed the original.

IMHO, clones are good to make OE manufactures step up or step out.

When it comes to Colt SAA.. give me an Taylors over a Colt. 1/3 price and does the job as good as any Colt.

Sig clones... time will tell

 

Well said sir, though I doubt that Sig will mess up against a clone :lol: Though I heard some find the Zastava's merged ambidextrous controls intuitive, especially if the one using it is a left-handed shooter. Only good thing I've heard about from the Norco's is that they use some pretty hefty steel, though Sig's material is quite nice for its purpose already. I guess the platform's aspects is harder to improve than that of original AR15 gas impingement system and reliability.

 

Checking my records the prices I paid including shipping and FFL fees meaning actual out of pocket to have in my hand was:
#1 the nicest condition was $377.00 with 2 15rnd mags
#2 was $290.00 with 1 15rnd mag
#3 was $315.00 with 2 15rnd mags

I bought 1 15 round mag for $55.00
I bought 2 15rnd mags for $60.00
I bought 4 15rnd mags for$110.00

So I averaged $27.00 a mag and I doubt you can find that today (This was 2 years ago)
If you check GB make sure you notice how many mags so add or subtract $50.00 per mag to figure real value.

These do have loaded chamber indicators and the only problem I have had in 2 plus years (and a lot of use) was one of those indicators stuck and I yanked it out with no problems after it was removed.

The 40S&W version has reported problems and I would avoid it. The 9MM is GTG

Here is the nicest (#1) of the 3

 

Great insight! I'd believe mags would be hard to come by but heard beretta 92 mags will work as long as a D cut is made.

 

Why should I buy a clone when I can get an used original for around $350 - $400 as a police trade in?

 

Ah yes, I believe I did mention that I was from a different country where we don't have the luxury of having police trade-ins. If only I lived state-side and I could get the chance to purchase police trade-ins. Your cops are pretty spoiled in my opinion since they get to use such quality firearms. Ours over here, used to have mil-surplus berretas and are now using USA made glocks. And I doubt any of them would ever be sold as police trade-ins.

 

A $400 used gun is a .40. Limited interest by most, of course you can convert and have a nice high quality multi caliber gun. But then you’ve spent $600.

Had an astra A80 back in the day and it didn’t run. Got rid of it. Currently the Turk copies look like high quality variants with some very nice features. However, their grip has the circumference of Texas and the DA pull feels like 18 LBS.

 

A SIG P226 "clone" does not interest me and is it really a clone? A clone would be able to use the same parts as the original but I don't believe that is the case.

The SIG P226 is not meant to be babied and plenty of credible reports of them lasting over 100,000 rounds fired if maintained well which typically is springs replaced per schedule, especially the recoil spring at every 5000 rounds or less and keeping it well lubed including the frame rails.

A lot of us spend a significant amount of our time and money on ammo for training and a clone/copy probably would not have the same characteristics in controls including trigger, recoil feel, and POI. I want to train with the real deal.

If one wants to get a P226 clone/copy because they need to save money, fine. But if they believe they will get the same experience as the real P226 IMO they probably will be disappointed.

 

I absolutely concur that there is no experience like that of only a Sig could bring. It wouldn't necessarily be a training tool, but rather just a spare firearm I can lend out to friends at the range if they want to learn, or just a "Nobody cares" gun. My tacops is by far the best "out of the box" shooting gun I've had. I don't intend to make it a safe queen as I compete with it, but then, I don't plan on ruining the firearm either given their price point and the premium we pay in our country. To give a glimpse I got the tacops at about $1800, years prior got a 40 nitron and a 9 dark elite at about $1900 a piece.

 

I've had the CZ99 and the REX Zero 1, very much a copy of the Sig (the REX). Not an exact copy but very close. I know it became famous when MAC tested one in his gauntlet testing and it blew the Sig Legion away. I know the testing isn't scientific and really about entertainment but I ended up buying a Rex based on my curiosity. It was a was a well built gun but was not compatible with my Sigs (mags, holsters). It had a thick grip, front to back and the DA trigger pull was long and heavy. I did not like the external safety either, not for me. I like clone guns, my Sphinx SDP is an example of a fantastic CZ clone but not a fan of any Sig clones yet.

 

Thank you for your insight. Heard some news about people wanting to buy the REX some time ago given its price point. Never seen one at the flesh yet but I guess that's something nice to learn more about.

 

If you're out of country what kind of FFL fees do you incur?

 

All purchases are made via my LGS. I'm unsure about how much their fees are and if they are procuring their stock from FFL's state-side or they go direct to the company. Though I'd believe it is the latter.