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Very nice report. Thank you for spending the time shooting and writing it up. I can tell you're excited. Right on.
I'm anticipating what else they have coming for this model down the road.

Is the trigger safety sharp? I'm guessing no, but had to ask as it looks it a little.

Did you know you said "more easier?" 😉😁
I.are.grunt... (U.S. Marine w/ crayon deficiency)

The trigger safety is not sharp, as it has "rounded" leading edge.
 
Thanks for the great review!

OK, our first range outing with the new CC9 yesterday was nothing short of spectacular. My Wife and I shot 650rds in ours without any malfunctions of any kind, and that's without any cleaning or lubing since purchase/pick-up. There were three (3) additional range patrons who took turns trying out the CC9 while comparing it to their Hellcats and Blocks. They put an extra 60rds downrange with our CC9 and they each stated that they were impressed enough to look more into this new HK USA offering. The ammo ranged from 115gr practice/range ammo all the way up to Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P hollow points (no steel cased stuff in my/our pistols, if I can help it).

I can say that there is more "snap" when shooting 115gr ammo, a little more than when shooting my Walther PPS M2 and was the same as the stock SIG P365 we rented at the range. We used 200rds of Winchester 115gr FMJ white box range ammo on steel targets at 7 and 10 yds in fast and slow shooting. No issues/problems were experienced but like I said, there is a bit of some "snap" to it with the 115's. Even shooting with one hand and purposefully using a "limp wrist" did not produce any malfunctions. The CC9's "memory pads" and a proper grip mitigate any shooting discomfort, so who really cares...

The CC9 felt great shooting the 124gr stuff we had from Federal, Winchester, and Speer. 250rd mixture of FMJs and JHPs that all cycled/fired without any issues, and by this point both 12 and 10 round mags were starting to break in nicely to the point that a MagLula was not needed anymore for full loading. When shooting the 124's, there was noticeably less "snap" to the point where my Wife and I both feel that the CC9 is a more pleasing shooter than my PPS M2 and the regular P365. The Hellcat guy on the range also agreed that 124gr ammo shot well and felt the same as his Hellcat (w/ light and optic). Same 7 and 10yd distance but on paper B-27 targets with decent 3" groups. The +P ammo did have some more "push & pop" to it in the CC9 but felt better than shooting the same seeds out of my PPS M2, so I may be looking at a new CCW after more range shoots and familiarity.

Of course, the 200rds of 147gr ammo (FMJ & JHP) was the best out of our CC9. Not only were there still no issues in shooting the CC9 with this ammo, it also "felt" the best. We tried to induce failures with one handed shots, more "limp wristing", and even off-axis/unsupported "gansta' sideways" shots. No malfunctions at all, and the empty shells all ejected in the same arch. I plan on even more 147gr and 124gr ammo this coming week after we do a good striping and cleaning of our CC9.

We shot the CC9 as 12+1 and 10+1 and the mags had no problems fully seating with a single "tap" to load them. Each empty mag ejected cleanly with gusto. The large backstrap worked just fine for me, but my Wife will stick with the medium one. Neither of us had any issues with the ambi-magazine release when shooting with right or left hands, and neither did the other 3 range shooters who also shot with it. No inadvertent mag drops as some of us feared, as the ambi-mag release is in the optimal location. I did have to make a minor adjustment to my grip in order to drop a mag one-handed. The 12rd mag's "pinky extension" is just right for our hands, and the 10rd mag is very serviceable for providing a solid grip while shooting and less printing for concealed carry (my Wife likes either mag for her hands). The sights are great for anything under 10/15yds but I'd personally like a "u-notch" for anything past that. The front sight picture is clear and the front dot is easy to pick up. The lume is bright and helpful in low-to-no light settings, and I look forward to more dusk/night stuff with the CC9. The left and right slide releases will take some more breaking in, as they are still a bit stiff (especially the right side) but they're getting there. The slide locked back to the rear after every emptied mag except for one time with one of the range patrons, as he rode the slide release accidentally during a mag dump. The slide is starting to become more easier to rack as the RSA is also breaking in more, but will still be a potential issue for those with weak/compromised wrists. The slide serrations are good, but they are flat/flush without any "wings" to assist charging the CC9 with it's stout recoil spring. No sharp edges on the slide or frame (except for the leading lug of the 1913 pic rail), and the trigger guard is just about perfect (gloves or no gloves) as I have somewhat "caveman" hands/fingers. The combination of the front finger grooves, trigger guard undercut, rear "beavertail" on the medium & large backstrap, the good texture on the grip, and the 12rd mag "pinky ext" all contribute to a locked-in feel when handling and shooting the CC9. We like it, and so did the others.

The trigger... I will say the CC9's trigger is better than a stock P365 and Hellcat but not quite as good as my PPS M2. I did notice that the CC9's trigger did start to feel better as we closed out our range time, so there's a chance it will improve as we continue to break it in. I can't compare it to my VP9SK due to it's aftermarket HKParts trigger & spring, so I'll hopefully track down a stock VP9SK this week for more comparisons. The trigger break and reset was audible and tactile, with and without gloves. Our CC9's trigger break is about as "sharp" as the Walther and better than the stock P365. The trigger reset "click" is a bit less than the PPS M2 and on par with the SIG. Good solid and predictable wall and no "rolling" or "mushy" break. Our CC9 has about a 4 1/2 lbs break, which is fine for us as a CCW. The trigger safety "dingus" is solid and serves it's purpose, as we couldn't move the trigger rearward without squarely pulling the entire trigger altogether. The curved trigger did not cause any skin pinching or bunching of glove material. There is no side-to-side trigger slop or excess movement. Nice little trigger, but I'd like to try a potential flat faced one in the future.

My Wife says that she enjoyed shooting the CC9 and that it's size & weight, recoil impulse, and ergos/shape felt just fine to her. Afterall, this will be her first HK pistol and she's already liking it very much thus far. I can say the same, and I can't wait to spend a lot more range time with our CC9 before it's potentially put into my carry rotation (with a few good holsters). If this thing goes 500 to 600 more rounds of mixed ammo without any hiccups, I'll be even more impressed and buying my own without a doubt. No light/laser or optic accessories were used, but I would not count out a good red/green dot from either Meprolight or Holosun in the future were I to dive into one to use as an EDC. As a CCW/BUG, I could go with the CC9 stock out of the very nice zippered case and action figure-like box. This is a very nice pistol and a pretty good shooter. For it's intended purpose and audience, HK USA looks to have a winner here in the CC9. Don't let the modern appearance/looks fool you (or others) into thinking this thing is not up to HK's high quality & standards. Once the complete (& proper) word on this thing gets out, good luck finding one for a while. I feel the $550 we paid for our CC9 is certainly worth it, so if you can score one at that price or less, jump on it. HK USA did a great job with this CC9, so my hat's off to them. Looking forward to seeing what else they have in store for us die-hard fans/shooters, as well as those new to HK firearms.

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Very nice report. Thank you for spending the time shooting and writing it up. I can tell you're excited. Right on.
I'm anticipating what else they have coming for this model down the road.

Is the trigger safety sharp? I'm guessing no, but had to ask as it looks it a little.

Did you know you said "more easier?" 😉😁
I fixt'ed it... :LOL:
 
I don't really want to get in on the mag release argument, because, everyone should get what they like.

However, I held a P30 at the gun store and they said they shipped them with the large back on the grip. I mentioned in a thread, here and on HKforum that I had trouble reaching the paddle because it was so far forward (and I hoped it would be better with the smaller backstrap). Several people said, "just use your support hand, that's what I do."
Personally I think paddle designs are a bit far forward for dominant hand thumb release on most pistols without adjusting your grip.
I had a USP a few decades ago, I just adjusted my grip some and even used my index (trigger) finger.
My hands are not hams, more the lean and long type. Size XL gloves fit for finger length, but feel roomy.

Advantages: reach; near immunity to slide bite.

It also means I can actuate HK or Walther paddles with my shooting hand thumb, index finger, or middle finger. I can do this with either hand.

In that way, I guess HK and Walther pistols favor longer hands.

But…

Disadvantages to long or large hands:

Interference with the oversized slide stop (HKs often do not lock back on empty for me).

On button mag release guns, an oversized mag release button is a no-go for me. I don’t have to shift grip to use standard release buttons on any gun I own, or have ever owned. So, an oversized control is likely to result in unintended mag drop.

And again, paddles - for me - pose no problem at all.

So you are right - hand type matters.

The poster who suggested that you try a smaller backstrap had a point, too.
 
Well… in defiance of the new HK, non paddle, non hammer, non flush 12rd mag wonder pistol I put away my sk HK’s and grabbed my USP .45 acp and I’m now carrying it. Even took her to the range this am. Cleaning it up and gonna shove it in my pants. Take that tiny HK pew-pew. 😁🤣🤣
"Take that tiny HK pew-pew.?
What are you talking about?
The new HK CC9 or one of your body parts (that lives in your pants)? I guess the "shove it in my pants" and Gunny's "This is my rifle and this is my gun" have come together.
 
"Take that tiny HK pew-pew.?
What are you talking about?
The new HK CC9 or one of your body parts (that lives in your pants)? I guess the "shove it in my pants" and Gunny's "This is my rifle and this is my gun" have come together.
🤣🤣. Lighten up there buddy. It was all in fun. But, I did get out the USP.
 
I always approach buying new guns in terms of fitting into my current systems. My wife and I carry the exact same copy of the P365XL with the Holosun 507K. The same goes true for bedside full size P320’s with Romeo 2’s, Surefire X300, etc. If I were heavily invested in the HK brand, then it would make sense to buy the CC9. But we already have several options for that segment and it doesn’t make sense to switch.
 
Extremely ** off it doesn’t have a paddle magazine release!! Gonna hold off until HK gives us HK purists a paddle. If not, as a 100% HK fanboy, gonna pass and keep rocking their hammer fired P2000 and USP’s.

Why would anyone even want a paddle release? You know how many of my 200 plus pistols have a paddle release? Here's a hint.....ZERO. I bought the CC9 and I love it. It's much better built than the P365, Hell Cat, orShield plus. It feels better in the hand and is more accurate for me at least. The price is on par with the P365 and Hell Cats but is a bit more than the S&W's. It is now my every day carry and has completely replaced all of my P365 variants including My 365 Legion Macro. If it had had a silly paddle release I would never have even looked at it. I laugh at all the HK guys that come straight out the gate bitching about the paddle release. You guys crack me up.
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Like the overwhelming majority of shooters around the world, I prefer American style mag release to paddle style preferred by the perhaps dozens of HK absolutists whose souls are tortured at the mention of buttons...

But regarding the cc9 VS p365, Shield, and Hellcat- "much better built" is a HUGE leap... Had you said "slightly better built" or "appears to be a little more refined", you wouldn't have sounded so emotional.

I can't wait until the HK absolutists realize the sfp9cc is never coming to America- they'll probably get an old school bus for a one way koolaid drinking trip into the Black Forest in a final act of snow flakery.


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But regarding the cc9 VS p365, Shield, and Hellcat- "much better built" is a HUGE leap...

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I agree! I’ve had all of the guns mentioned AND they’re all solid guns. I currently have the CC9, it’s had 3 FTEs in 700 rounds, no biggie. My former P365, I modified the **** out of it, couldn’t make it fail, lol!
 
Why would anyone even want a paddle release? You know how many of my 200 plus pistols have a paddle release? Here's a hint.....ZERO. I bought the CC9 and I love it. It's much better built than the P365, Hell Cat, orShield plus. It feels better in the hand and is more accurate for me at least. The price is on par with the P365 and Hell Cats but is a bit more than the S&W's. It is now my every day carry and has completely replaced all of my P365 variants including My 365 Legion Macro. If it had had a silly paddle release I would never have even looked at it. I laugh at all the HK guys that come straight out the gate bitching about the paddle release. You guys crack me up. View attachment 661276
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Where are you finding the CC9 for $450?
 
P365s here average $550 to $650 everywhere I look. I have 2x P365, a p365 xl, a p365 xmacro, and a p365 axg legion. All are fine guns don't get me wrong. Take the cc9 apart and compare the machining on them. The cc9 is superior in every detail. Look at the recoil spring and compare the weight, and build the cc9 is superior. Look at the extra attention to rounding/smoothing/breaking of sharp edges on the slide (what sig used to call the SAS treatment). The cc9 is superior. To me the trigger feels better, is wider, and has the trigger safety installed again making the cc9 superior. The cc9 was held in production/testing for 7 years before being released not using customers for beta testers like Sig often does. Again cc9 superior. I'm going by memory here but if I remember right the cc9 was put through military grade testing without failure until something like 280,000 rounds. Again cc9 superior.

Look guys I get it. I'm a die hard Sig guy. Always have been, always will be. 90% of my firearms are Sig. All I'm saying is the cc9 is a damn fine firearm. In my opinion it is one of if not the best 12 rd micro 9's on the market. Give one a try or at least look at one before writing it off because it's $50 more than a p365 or hellcat or what ever. I love mine. Of its not for you that's cool. I can't say enough about how happy I am with this purchase. I'm keeping my Sigs but I'll be carrying this for the immediate future.
 
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I routinely see the p365 OR available for $449-499 locally and online. I've never seen an HK cc9 in person, and online they've never been below $599.

I may buy a cc9 eventually but not to replace any p365 models.


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