[Lancer L5 AWM]

... I wish them the best, and hopefully the establishment of HK USA manufacturing will free up the US entity to be able to start making more nimble decision-making on their own. Ironically, most HK fanboys will turn their nose up at anything not made in Germany (which is hilarious, imo) and HK USA is going to have to expand their market beyond the traditional snobs to new people willing to buy US-made HKs, if they want to flourish.

I concur.


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[Wasp]

My interest is only in innovation. I seriously doubt I'll ever own one.

 

[Twister]

I think the problem for a long time has been HK management. Slow to change, slow to bring things to market, slow to tap into the huge U.S market in any serious way. Mil contracts aren't enough. If they don't start running the company like it's 2024 rather than 1984, they are doomed to repeat their previous history of insolvencies, imo.

I wish them the best, and hopefully the establishment of HK USA manufacturing will free up the US entity to be able to start making more nimble decision-making on their own. Ironically, most HK fanboys will turn their nose up at anything not made in Germany (which is hilarious, imo) and HK USA is going to have to expand their market beyond the traditional snobs to new people willing to buy US-made HKs, if they want to flourish.

Nail….head!
I cannot believe that HK has basically ignored the US market for as long as they have. They have so many great products they could sell here if they just set up shop and start building them here.

 

[Twister]

I hope HK does well with it because HK needs to grow their company beyond the small niche of people who like paddle mag releases. Having a small, dedicated following is nice, but it doesn't grow the business and HK definitely needs to grow with people who've never owned an HK before.


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Plus they need to start being price competitive and IMO that’s the biggest hang up for this gun, it’s basically the most expensive gun in the segment. I would have thought that building it in the states would have helped with pricing by avoiding the German government.

 

[Mulhoney]

My smaller 9mms that I carry are a p365 (my only striker) and a P30sk. There's a notable size difference and depending on the specifics of the day, choosing one or the other is just fine. The CC9 fits in between for me and won't replace either one. I suppose if you were looking to move away from a Glock 43, it could call for a look. It just does nothing for me.

 

[Lancer L5 AWM]

One thing I missed and shouldn't have because I've complained about it before with HK pistols: the ambi slide control on the right side of HK pistols for LH shooters- most of HK's pistols, on the right side, have a large, "in the way" control lever- but HK fixed that with this new CC9 pistol- the lever is well designed and perfectly mirrored just like on the other side of the pistol. Good job HK.


Here's the vp9sk with the typical HK right side slide control, in contrast with the much improved slide control on the CC9 below it:

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[CaptainM16]

I was issued an H&K USP .40 caliber with Law Enforce Modification from TSA when I was a Captain at AA. I did not like that gun at all, and the magazines issued were terrible with the end plates coming off when dropped on the concrete deck during training. Two friend‘s guns broke and had to be replaced. I am no fan at all of H&K. TSA now issues Glocks to airline FFDOs. Federal Air Marshals are issued Sig .357 pistols.

My EDC guns are two Sigs, P365 XL & P365 X.

 

[DevilDog61]

I hope HK does well with it because HK needs to grow their company beyond the small niche of people who like paddle mag releases. Having a small, dedicated following is nice, but it doesn't grow the business and HK definitely needs to grow with people who've never owned an HK before.


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I hope it's flop so that maybe (that's a Big maybe) HK will learn to produce what their customers want.
If it does well, it will just be business as usual at HK.

 

[IBreakthings]

The HK is a FCU pistol and that's a good thing but unless they support it with grip options and mag capacity options then it's useless. Personally, I dislike grip/mag sleeves and I'd want a 12 round grip if I'm going to carry it with a 12 round magazine not with a bulky hunk of plastic at the bottom of my grip and on my reload. Same goes for 15 and 17 magazines.

I'll also suggest a carry pistol needs a fun stick mag as a reload, or to have in the pistol on the night stand. A 20+ mag from the manufacturer is a must when I decide taking a pistol with me... especially when traveling.

I like HK and if I was looking to get my first carry pistol I sure would research & test fire this pistol but at this point I'm heavily invested in the P365 and is covers all my needs.

I hate to pile on but it's true, HK is just too late to the game for me on this one.

 

[Lancer L5 AWM]

I hope it's flop so that maybe (that's a Big maybe) HK will learn to produce what their customers want.
If it does well, it will just be business as usual at HK.

I'd prefer to see HK get healthier financially- which requires they focus on appealing to a wider customer base with features most Americans prefer- like American style mag releases and modular pistol FCUs.

Making firearms in America is also a huge plus because they won't be hamstrung by HK Germany management.

Hopefully we'll see an American made HK 416 semi-auto with a heavy barrel like the first MR556 had, featuring true full ambi controls, M-Lok, and mil-spec furniture and components.


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[Wasp]

Wonder what Bruce Gray can do with one of these?

 

[DevilDog61]

I'd prefer to see HK get healthier financially- which requires they focus on appealing to a wider customer base with features most Americans prefer- like American style mag releases and modular pistol FCUs.

Making firearms in America is also a huge plus because they won't be hamstrung by HK Germany management.

Hopefully we'll see an American made HK 416 semi-auto with a heavy barrel like the first MR556 had, featuring true full ambi controls, M-Lok, and mil-spec furniture and components.


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There are no American made HKs in my collection, and there never will be.
IMO, Real HKs are made in Germany.

 

[Lancer L5 AWM]

There are no American made HKs in my collection, and there never will be.
IMO, Real HKs are made in Germany.

Great hat- MAGA!


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[Clint64]

There are no American made HKs in my collection, and there never will be.
IMO, Real HKs are made in Germany.

As a HK owner, I don't think the CC9 is made for the diehard HK fans. It is made to appeal to people that pass the brand by looking at other pistols. HK needed something in the micro 9 field that appeals to a very wide range of people in order to help keep the brand viable in the US market. I am looking forward to other products developed and produced stateside

 

[Dr_Nimslow]

I had a chance to play with one at my local shop today. It was on layaway for another customer, or I would have brought it home with me. It feels good in my hand, my only real complaints are the lack of a paddle magazine release, and the RMSc optics footprint.

I did put my name on their list for one of the next shipment they receive. My P365 is an older one, without an optics cut, and old style extractor (that SIG no longer produces. SIG doing SIG things again). The CC9 will be replacing that pistol.

 

[Hammer]

There are no American made HKs in my collection, and there never will be.
IMO, Real HKs are made in Germany.

And that's why HK has had the financial history that it has. Diehard HK fans are never going to be the market that would grow the brand to a higher level of success and a broader audience. And, of course, most diehard HK fans don't care about that, either.

As a HK owner, I don't think the CC9 is made for the diehard HK fans. It is made to appeal to people that pass the brand by looking at other pistols.

Which is exactly what HK needs to do if it wants to expand. Whether that will be successful or not remains to be seen.

 

[Clint64]

Which is exactly what HK needs to do if it wants to expand. Whether that will be successful or not remains to be seen.

I agree and wish them success. I really don't need a CC9 but I can see myself buying one to help with that success. However, I am still looking for a look deal on a P2000sk LEM first.

I am looking forward to seeing what HK USA will release in the coming months.

 

[Clint64]

I had a chance to play with one at my local shop today. It was on layaway for another customer, or I would have brought it home with me. It feels good in my hand, my only real complaints are the lack of a paddle magazine release, and the RMSc optics footprint.

I did put my name on their list for one of the next shipment they receive. My P365 is an older one, without an optics cut, and old style extractor (that SIG no longer produces. SIG doing SIG things again). The CC9 will be replacing that pistol.

I am afraid to go by the LGS on the off chance they have the CC9 in stock and it follows me home. My P365 is one without an optics cut as well. Which would weigh heavily in my decision.

 

[AIRB0RNE6176]

Picked ours up yesterday "for my Wife". Got range time set up for today with 200rds of 115gr, 200rds of 124gr, and then 200rds of 147gr for initial first shots right outta the box. Will be comparing it to my VP9SK, SIG P365 X Macro, and trusty Walther PPS M2.

A very stiff RSA and the slide releases need to definitely be broken in some (especially the right side). The CC9 feels very good in my hand(s) w/ 12rd mag and large backstrap, and my Wife can easily obtain a full grip with the 10rd mag. For me, the 10rd mag will only be used for deep CCW. The whole package has looks and feels of high quality. Very impressive presentation. More to follow...

 

[hiketheball]

To compete with the p365, HK has a new micro 9mm pistol called the CC9, it has a Modular FCU, American style button mag release, a trigger drop safety, 3.3 inch barrel, it's just a little taller and longer than the p365:

CC9 - HK USA

Introducing the CC9 Everyday concealability, That Day Capability. Ironically, everyday carry isn’t about every day at all. It’s about "that day" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwFrkOg6MNQ Reliable Engineered with Heckler & Koch’s signature precision and rigorous testing, the CC9 is held to the...

hk-usa.com

Personally, I want the "European/German" style of mag release. The HK and Walther "flipper"/lever mag release is easier to exercise with arthritic hands. The downward movement to activate the mag release is not painful (as pressing is) and can be accomplished with the thumb (on the "normal" side) or a finger (on the opposite side).
Truly a mistake not to offer both so that all the rest of us can play.
IMHO/IMHE