[Wasp]

Anyone know if they’ll sell just the FCU/FCI like Sig? Or probably more likely just the complete lower with all the proprietary parts. I’d like to build one up using as many Glock parts as possible and something like a killer innovation or ZEV slide. I have a lot of interest in this while also having little interest in it lol. Love the idea of a chassis Glock and the Magpul EHG but don’t care for or really trust Ruger for handguns. Just don’t have experience with them and if I could have this gun be built from other parts from companies I fully trust that’d be dope. Ideally, if Glock would just make a chassis Glock with the Gen 6 that’d be the perfect handgun with time imo.

Ruger is one of the top six gun companies in the US, I'd argue they are in the top four depending on which gun we're talking about, and they are number one for single action revolvers and .22s. They have a fantastic warranty and repair department too.

One of the reasons I do trust it is because it's a Ruger.

 

[Wasp]

I got to handle one at my LGS today. Grip angle was better than Glock, but still felt too blocky for my taste. That, and the magwell made my pinky sit weird. Lastly, the mag rattled a lot when inserted, which was just strange.

You should have asked for a Glock mag to try.

 

[Wasp]

Personally, I don't think I would buy another Ruger. Four months ago I bought a 5.7 Ruger pistol and a 5.7 carbine. They both share the same magazine but unfortunately the magazines have been on back-order with Ruger for over 4 months! That is flat ridiculous! If they can't supply mags for their firearms they shouldn't sell the guns.

S&W has that issue with new guns, recently the BG 2.0. Didn't sig have that issue for a while with the 365 when it first came out due to demand? This uses Glock mags.
The 5.7 is unique, I guess it's possible that it's more popular than they expected, although I don't see the draw to the caliber myself.

 

[hiketheball]

A Legacy manufacturer partnering to create their own G19 G3 clone. Well that is weird for sure. Supposed future offerings will make use of this newish fire control group to offer more sizes. Well unless this pistol has some serious surprise under the covers - it just doesn't make sense to me.

Ruger beat Glock to the punch with its FCI (or FCU for Siggies) and at a Glock-busting price.
Glock now has to catch-up with Ruger!
At $400 retail price for a Glock-19 with OR included?

 

[hiketheball]

It seems weird to me to, another Glock clone in a sea of other Glock clones? And for the same money you can get a completely decked out PSA Dagger so even at the price point it seems like a hard sell?

Which Glock clone are you more likely to see in a LGS -- PSA Dagger or Ruger RXM?
Ruger already has a distribution system in place. PSA does not. Most will buy the Dagger sight unseen but the RXM can be seen and handled before purchase.
From my use of a Dagger, Magpul is likely to product a more efficient and ergonomic grip frame than PSA. Ruger doesn't make sloppy pistols either -- I don't much like them but they aren't sloppy.
IMO

 

[Twister]

Which Glock clone are you more likely to see in a LGS -- PSA Dagger or Ruger RXM?
Ruger already has a distribution system in place. PSA does not. Most will buy the Dagger sight unseen but the RXM can be seen and handled before purchase.
From my use of a Dagger, Magpul is likely to product a more efficient and ergonomic grip frame than PSA. Ruger doesn't make sloppy pistols either -- I don't much like them but they aren't sloppy.
IMO

That is true, most people “window shop” and buy on impulse so the Ruger will have an advantage of sitting on the shelf.
I think if Ruger takes advantage of the FCU and makes other guns to accept it they will greatly increase their chances of being successful with it. Personally I’d like to see a PCC.

 

[hiketheball]

Can't wait to see the aftermarket support for this. Ruger has outstanding customer support and warranty.

It's already here! Ruger is leveraging the current Glock After Market for parts -- especially optics since it's optics ready. Some of the features (extended mag release, extended slide release, extended take-down lever) may not require upgrades at all.
Looks like Ruger did the marketing research for this one!

 

[hiketheball]

Any confirmation as to the trigger being DAO or SAO?

Isn't this a striker-fired pistol? If so, it resembles a DA/SA hammer-fired pistol in use.

 

[Pete K]

Isn't this a striker-fired pistol? If so, it resembles a DA/SA hammer-fired pistol in use.

Striker fired guns are classified (also) as DAO or SAO.

 

[Para Pete]

Glock now has to catch-up with Ruger!

Playing catch-up is not in GLOCK's playbook- they prefer to keep their head firmly ensconced way up their own nether regions...

Improve grip angle- nein.
Improve grip texture- nein.
Improve sights- nein.
Improve trigger- nein.
Improve guide rod- nein.
Improve takedown tabs- nein.
(and the list goes on...)

Perfection? Mein Arschloch!

Right out of the gate the new Gluger RXM fixes what decades of imperceptive grandiosity has kept GLOCK from doing themselves.

I salute Ruger for stepping up and finally perfecting "Perfection".

 

[DM47]

Grip angle is…different than a Glock 19. No hump. I think. I need to get one in my hand to tell.

From Handgun hero. 19 on top, RXM under.
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Sootch says ....(snip)... Has 1911 angle grip.

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It appears Sootch is wrong. The Magpul's grip angle is 20.5 degrees, as stated directly from Magpul. In measuring Magupl's imagery of the grip module, that's what I concur with.

 

[Wasp]

Playing catch-up is not in GLOCK's playbook- they prefer to keep their head firmly ensconced way up their own nether regions...

Improve grip angle- nein.
Improve grip texture- nein.
Improve sights- nein.
Improve trigger- nein.
Improve guide rod- nein.
Improve takedown tabs- nein.
(and the list goes on...)

Perfection? Mein Arschloch!

Right out of the gate the new Gluger RXM fixes what decades of imperceptive grandiosity has kept GLOCK from doing themselves.

I salute Ruger for stepping up and finally perfecting "Perfection".

I don't agree. People that like Glock like it for what it is, member included. People that don't, will go elsewhere anyway. So there's no reason to change.
I wish several mfgs would have left well enough alone on their pistols, Beretta 92 comes to mind, it was never supposed to be a straight grip 1911, and I hate it. S&W 686 7 shot, same thing.
If a mfg wants to add to theif lineup and offer two models, fine, but don't change what works and made you to begin with.
Also discontinuing popular models like the Sig 228 and 239, X Carry, the P7M8, etc.

Ruger does well in this area, they kee the classics, and still offer what customers are asking for....usually. They also head off a lot of aftermarket because of that.

If Glock changes the Glock, I hope it's just a FCG and not the overall design, unless they just add to the lineup.

Edit: I do like looks of features the RXM though, but still like Glock- too.

...there is no perfect pistol, must have more than one. 😁

 

[Aahzz]

You should have asked for a Glock mag to try.

If I had actually been interested in the gun, I would have, but since I didn't like the grip anyway it didn't seem worthwhile. The sales dude was curious and did pull out another RXM, and it had the same rattle.

 

[Wasp]

If I had actually been interested in the gun, I would have, but since I didn't like the grip anyway it didn't seem worthwhile. The sales dude was curious and did pull out another RXM, and it had the same rattle.

I hear ya. I'd imagine it's the magazine. I haven't seen the pistol in person so far though.
I am glad you brought it up though.
One of my worries is as you said, the flare for magwell. The G19 is almost to small for my hand, so I'd like to see a G45 17 round eventually just to see how it fits. I want to check this out though.

 

[docnsx01]

MY local gun store was sold out

 

[Para Pete]

If a mfg wants to add to theif lineup and offer two models, fine, but don't change what works and made you to begin with.

That's the point I've been making for decades now- millions of potential customers have been given no choice but to eschew GLOCK due to GLOCK choosing to not give the buyer a choice in a more ergonomic grip.

It makes no sense whatsoever for them to limit themselves from an even greater share of the worldwide firearms market because of, well... WHY exactly?!

That is $B question.

I have owned hundreds of firearms in my 50+ years on this planet.
I have never owned a GLOCK because they point dangerously high for me (that's me and millions of other firearms enthusiasts).
I have owned multiple of GLOCK's competitors because they either have superior ergonomics, they offer a variety of models to suit more people, or they integrate grip adjustability into their designs making them a superior self-defense tool for many more people.
I would have owned lots of GLOCKs if they had only been smart enough to offer me the same superior features as a majority of GLOCK's competitors.

So, I am yet again having to ask... for what reason does GLOCK NOT offer the same superior features that almost every other firearms manufacturer in the world offers?

I continue to await a reasonable response...

 

[Wasp]

That's the point I've been making for decades now- millions of potential customers have been given no choice but to eschew GLOCK due to GLOCK choosing to not give the buyer a choice in a more ergonomic grip.

It makes no sense whatsoever for them to limit themselves from an even greater share of the worldwide firearms market because of, well... WHY exactly?!

That is $B question.

I have owned hundreds of firearms in my 50+ years on this planet.
I have never owned a GLOCK because they point dangerously high for me (that's me and millions of other firearms enthusiasts).
I have owned multiple of GLOCK's competitors because they either have superior ergonomics, they offer a variety of models to suit more people, or they integrate grip adjustability into their designs making them a superior self-defense tool for many more people.
I would have owned lots of GLOCKs if they had only been smart enough to offer me the same superior features as a majority of GLOCK's competitors.

So, I am yet again having to ask... for what reason does GLOCK NOT offer the same superior features that almost every other firearms manufacturer in the world offers?

I continue to await a reasonable response...

You and millions of others, yet tens of millions of other enthusiasts think they're fine like they are, and shoot multiple grip angles and shapes fine. I own many more than Glock, obviously. Glock isn't hurting for buyers.
Some will hate this because it's not a Glock, and that's fine too.

This is why it's so important to make sure you picked a handgun that is ergonomic, for you, the shooter, as opposed to just going with what someone says to get or what's trending.

I do think there are several features that are appealing on the RXM, especially at that price point.

I have no use for a Dodge, but at least they make Chevy, and Mustangs.

 

[Sig-Pile]

I own bunch of Glocks. Had a G26 grafted to side until the p365 was a thing. Of all the guns I have owned Glocks have been the most trouble free. I am a Glock armorer, but on my own guns all I have ever done is change the sights. Step one addressing a reliability issue with someone's tricked out Glock has aways been, "go get the box with the original parts."

Glock has had many opportunities to move their design forward and they really have not. The Gen 5 was the opportunity for a true redesign and the time to maybe even go with a FCU type system. Instead they played it safe and only addressed internal issues, and played with cosmetics. So we got a gun that looks like its interchangeable with its predecessors, but mostly is not.

I am not ready for, nor do I need, a "not Glock," but I can see this appealing to someone entering the market now. It seems that Innovation in the Glock space will be by others. Not unlike the way the 1911 moved beyond Colt.

 

[Para Pete]

And yet folks continue to inexplicably misapprehend the words that I'm clearly saying...

I want to like GLOCK.
I'd love to own a GLOCK (and have since the late 80's).
I don't because GLOCK refuses to offer designs that are more ergonomic for millions of potential customers worldwide.

All I'm asking is WHY don't they?

You wouldn't think that'd be such a difficult question to get a reasonable answer to. Yet- here we are... still.

It's also very telling that instead of attempting to actually answer the question, folks get fitfully defensive and feel the need to defend GLOCK for some bizarre reason.

GLOCK could make their firearms more suitable for more people- so why don't they?

Anyone?... Anyone?

 

[ZuluDeltaWhiskey]

And yet folks continue to inexplicably misapprehend the words that I'm clearly saying...

I want to like GLOCK.
I'd love to own a GLOCK (and have since the late 80's).
I don't because GLOCK refuses to offer designs that are more ergonomic for millions of potential customers worldwide.

All I'm asking is WHY don't they?

You wouldn't think that'd be such a difficult question to get a reasonable answer to. Yet- here we are... still.

It's also very telling that instead of attempting to actually answer the question, folks get fitfully defensive and feel the need to defend GLOCK for some bizarre reason.

GLOCK could make their firearms more suitable for more people- so why don't they?

Anyone?... Anyone?

This 100%. I want to clarify I own a Glock 19.5. Had a G19.4. It’s a beater gun that I keep in my car. I want to like it but the frame is just terrible. I get Glock knuckle from the poorly designed undercut. The hump on the backstrap not only makes it point high, it digs into the bony part of my palm and with a firm grip borderline hurts. Chopping a backstrap in half helps alleviate the discomfort a bit but it’s still there. A Glock with an improved frame to point naturally and just be comfortable would be a top tier gun. Yet they just refuse to make any upgrades that actually matter. The only upgrade they’ve made worth a **** has been the addition of front slide serrations which looks like they just copied and pasted the rears to the front lol. If the Gen 6 can actually improve the frame or better yet just make the Glock a chassis gun so others can easily fix the issues with the frame, Glock would be almost everyone’s go to gun. It probably won’t surpass my HKs though as I’m a total HK fanboy lmao.