I know this was an issue with other sig 17 round mags, BUT this is still a problem. I bought 2 (Magazine P365 x-Macro, 9mm 17 RD) and went to load them USING the UpLULA loading tool. I can only get 16 in the mag. and used so much down pressure I was afraid of breaking the tool. No Joy 16 is max. Has anyone found a way to get all 17 in the mag. Now just to be clear, I have fully loaded the 15 and 12 round mags with no problem using UpLULA. The best I can do is loading the 17th round about 3/4 of the way in but cannot seat it completely / properly.
New P365 X-Macro 17 RD Magazine will only allow 16 rounds.
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All 4 mags with my new TacOps were probably the tightest mags I've ever loaded. Left them full loaded for a few days before the first trip to the range and they loosened up a bit.
yep, I had same experience with the 4 mags I bought couple of months ago. They seem to loosen up just a little keeping them loaded for a while - and shot periodically too. I do suggest you practice racking the slide (starting closed) on a full 17 rd mag. The slide "drag" is noticeable, but with proper technique and a serious effort, it works. However, my 5ft 2 wife could not do it.
i just received my new 17 rd mag and same issue. Mine looked like the follower was turning sideways but I will wait a day or so then try again.
All I can add is confirm my above post from 5 months ago. All 4 of my 17rd mags have loosened up slightly, but noticeably, after being stored full and shot as well (maybe 80 - 100 rds through each). With significant effort, the uplula did get the 17th round fully in first few times - it is a little easier now (still need the uplula).
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I personally was able to put all 17 rounds in my x macro. I used the cheap loader sig included. I was able to put the mag in the gun and shoot all 17 rounds with zero difficulty. I purchased my x-macro 3 months ago.
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I work for a police department and just got the P365 as my off duty carry. The guys at my range were telling me the 17 round mag for the P365 is good for range shooting but not reliable in real world application. Can anyone elaborate why they would say that or can share any issues they have had with the new 17 rd magazine. Thanks!
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I have no clue why they’d say that. Did they give a reason for their opinion?
I have four Macro mags in use, about 500 rounds through them. 2 are stock 17s, 2 I have TTI extendo’s to make them 20. No issues so far.
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That last round is a bear in some of my XMacro mags. I end up using my Maglula. It's pretty tough, and then the last round will go in. If it continues to be a problem, Call Sig Sauer CS. Maybe they will replace the magazine for you.
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Because too many "guys at the range" or the gun store for that matter, think they have a clue, but don't.
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He made a mention that in the early stages of testing the vendor made an off putting comment. so far in my research i found nothing to support a negative claim. Thanks!
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Hmmm, ok, never heard that. Vendor?
I dunno, I just checked the Forum, and absent frequent mention of not being able to get 17 rounds on initial loading, I don’t see any threads on X Macro feedway issues.
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I came up with a way to help break in the springs on the Sig Sauer P365 XMacro 17 round magazine. First load the magazine with 17 rounds using the speed loader and some serious effort. Then, I took the magazine with the speed loader still on top of the magazine and placed it between a cushioned C clamp. I then tighten the C clamp just enough to lower the 17th round about a 1/8” down into the magazine. I let that sit overnight and by the next morning, I was not only able load my magazine with 17 rounds, by still applying good pressure, until it locked in place. More importantly, I was able to pull the slide back to chamber a round where as before I could lock the magazine in place but chambering a round was impossible without damaging the gun or the round. I would recommend being very careful when tightening the padded sea clamp as to not put more pressure on it than needed to drop the 17th round an eighth of an inch down into the magazine. I then carefully checked the 17th round for any type of damage caused by the compression, and found none. Anyway, this sped up the break-in process for the 17 round magazine from several hundred rounds of loading and unloading and waiting to a 24 hours. Please comment with your thoughts questions and our concerns as to this technique.
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My left hand is physically handicapped. This speed loader is absolutely amazing! I loaded 17rds into 6 new mags with very little effort and in just a few minutes!
Iam having a problem with my magazine for the P365 X-Macro, also. The 17th round is hard to load in because the follower is bottoming out and when loading the magazine into the pistol you have to force it in and when you try to charge the pistol it is very hard to pull the slide back. I loaded the magazine with 17 rounds and took the floor plate off and noticed the follower was bottomed out on the floor plate. Here are pictures. You can see that the follower is at the bottom with the 17 in the mag. I had the same problem with my P229 and bought magazines from a different maker and worked perfectly fine. IMO you SHOULD NOT have to force the 17th round in let alone force the magazine into the magazine well. If the follower is already bottomed out, then attempting to load it into the well then, the rounds can't go down any further under the slide. I contacted Sig and sent them the pictures and said they don't see anything wrong with the follower bottoming out on the floor plate. HUH?????? Over the years I've seen Sigs workmanship and quality inspections take a nosedive. Don't they inspect this stuff anymore? Now if the follower is already bottomed out, remember you still have the metal plate on the bottom of the spring that seats on the floor plate and the spring being compressed. All they had to do is make a deeper floorplate by about at least a 1/4 inch or so and the problem would be solved.
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Welcome to SigTalk. Sorry to hear you are having difficulties.
You are describing normal operation for a brand-new 17 round P365-series magazine.
There is no correlation between the magazine/feedway design of the P365 and the magazine/feedway design of the P229. The P365 is incredibly dense, and Sig had to engineer the magazine and RSA to fit quite snugly (very snugly) into the design envelope. That has carried over to the X, XL and Macro.
Many users new to the P365 design / magazines find it difficult at first to load and rack the slide on new magazines that have not had at least one preferably more than one load / unload / load sequence, or a couple trips to the range. Once used a few times, the magazines become manageable (note, I did not say easy) to reliably load to full capacity. This applies to 10, 12, 15 and 17 round magazines.
That's because there is no problem be solved. The magazines (including yours) will work fine, once exercised a bit. Supporting this is the dozens of threads of owners shooting magazines to full capacity with no issues. They all do this.
I'll repeat the friendly advice frequently given here:
If you don't have an UpLula magazine loader, it will help to get one, at least at first. Since you have them apart, inspect the followers for casting marks, scrape or buff them off, and give the mag tube a light wipe, perhaps with the dry lube of your choice. Reassemble with the spring in the correct orientation. Load, then unload them to full capacity. You may need to let them sit at 16 for a while, then you will find you can get 17 in. Yes, you will have to load the 17th with some enthusiasm.
You may find Barney loading a mag at first to be useful, if you want to get to N+1 for a carry weapon, perhaps. For normal range use, follow the procedure listed in the P365 manual, and load from a fully loaded magazine from a locked slide, only.
Some additional context:
X Macro Magazine
I just got a X macro a few weeks ago and noticed that the mags are not only stiff when loading the 17th round but I really have to jam it in the gun for it mag to lock in has anyone experienced this? ….on a side note I took it to the range (put 70 rd through it) and it jammed up on my FIRST...
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New P365 X-Macro 17 RD Magazine will only allow 16 rounds.
I know this was an issue with other sig 17 round mags, BUT this is still a problem. I bought 2 (Magazine P365 x-Macro, 9mm 17 RD) and went to load them USING the UpLULA loading tool. I can only get 16 in the mag. and used so much down pressure I was afraid of breaking the tool. No Joy 16 is max...
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X Macro Magazine
I've been looking but haven't seen anything describing a problem I ran into 1/5/23. I tried to insert a full 17 round mag into X Macro with the slide forward and absolutely could not make it work. Of course with slide to rear worked perfectly, but with the slide closed cannot insert full mag...
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Magazine will not seat with 12 rounds in the magazine...
Another strange thing I noticed today was that if I put 12 rounds in my 365XL it will not fully engage. It actually falls out, no matter how much pressure I put on it. Another *** regarding my sig 365 XL i really regret selling my Glock 26 and 30SF 45 after the issues I have had with Sig. I...
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Racking a 365 With a Full Magazine
Can u do this with yours if you put the mag in while the slide is forward? I have about 500 rds since pulling it out of the box. It seems I can't rack it on a full mag of 10 rounds Well lubed, too. No other issues. I would much prefer to load 10 rounds and not have the +1 in the chamber...
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365X magazine
Just received my new 365X after evaluating competitors. I'm having a very hard time loading the magazines. I'm kind of familiar with this type of magazine and the procedure required to put the rounds in, but it seems like the spring is way too strong. I'm a 170 lb male with fairly strong hands I...
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Stiff magazines
Knowing that the mags are somewhat hard to load into the gun. Is it ok to leave the fully loaded mags in the gun? Wondering if it would somehow effect the slide if a fully loaded magazine is pushing against it pretty hard.
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You are not the first by far to make this comment, and certainly will not be the last. But I'm glad you did, because we can help explain what's going on, so you can get on to enjoy your pistol, and again, welcome to the forum.
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Not sure where this was supposed to be linked to... but it takes me to Maglula.
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