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General info for OP: an “RMR” is the name of a specific model of red dot sight manufactured by Trijicon. If he meant red dot sights in general, “RDS” is the correct term.

Red dot technology has come a long way in the last couple decades but the reigning king for pistol red dots is the Trijicon RMR and for rifles the Aimpoint T2.

Jury is out if they’re considered a necessity but some folks seem to shoot better with one mounted. Primary advantage is that a red dot allows for easy “both eyes open” technique.

The most difficult/frustrating aspect of mounting a red dot is slide compatibility as there is no industry standard footprint. Many gun makers have solved this by employing mounting plates but it’s never an ideal solution.
 
First I need to know what an RMR is, then I can answer the question.
So tired of acronyms...
I probably don't have one though.
According to Wikipedia (consider the source) an RMR is a "Ruggedized miniature reflex (optics), a type of weapon-mounted red dot sight for guns."
 
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Like Abbeville, I too find all the acronyms a bit daunting. Since no one took the time to answer the question of, "What the heck is a RMR?", I shall.

RMR = Ruggedized Miniature Reflex Sight
Thanks to the members of the forum that answered my question.
I have an Aimpoint red dot sight but my astigmatism ruins the dot. I have decided that reflex sight is what I need to try.
 
I’ve been watching a lot of Carry Trainer videos on the Tube and don’t know the exact ones where Mick goes down the line with his students and watches their process for loading and presenting and firing down range.
There were 18 students on the line and maybe 1-2 did not have RMR’s on their blasters. Is that cause it’s just the next wave in training or have people bought into it as if it’s better I have to have it. Supposed to be nice for us older eyes guys,don’t know. Haven’t tried them yet.
I'm suprised how many people so far don't really use them. I started to convert a few years ago as they became more popular and I absolutely love them. At 48, my eyes aren't what they used to be and after some practice, I'm on target much faster than with iron sights, have an easier time keeping both eyes open during target acquisition, and shoot much more accurately at longer distances. I'm not criticizing anyone else's choices but for me, they are a definite improvement in performance.
 
Heck no! I see no need. Iron sights are working out just fine on my pistols and in training drills. A less important note: as a traditionalist, I think red dot sights ruin the looks of a fine pistol. “Red Dot Revolution?” C’mon man! Not for me.
 
After having both eyes rebuilt iron sights are not an option for me any longer. However, I would be using them any way since they are more precise. A 2 - 6 MOA dot is more precise than a 20 - 30 MOA iron sight. But you have to learn to ignore the wobble, that is there with irons but you do not notice it because......the iron sights are so big.
 
I'm almost 72, don't need them and don't want them. Take a look at my past posted targets, and tell me I should use that junk.
 
Well, my eyes just turned 68, and probably need new lenses. However, I do not feel the need to have an optic on my CCW or my HD pistol. Not even close. Especially, for CC for SD, where quick deployment (drawing from concealment) and maybe point shooting are not unexpected, I can't imagine ever needing on optic on my CCW.
Well. You don't know what you don't know. An MOS still allows point and shoot from one hand which is a very likely scenario.

Other wise at 7 yards you merely get the center of mass in the reticle and you are good to go. But the more you practice you find that the dot will be immediately visible and you will be able to shoot as quickly (with much higher accuracy).

Once you train with it iron sights are like using a stick to write in the sand vs a pen and paper.
 
Copy pasted my usual answer, saving me some typing:

I converted to dots in 2020. I added a HS507c to my G34 Gen 5 so I could shoot carry optics in USPSA (2,400 rounds). I carried a Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS with another 507c. Took that gun through Tim Herron's course last Feb in Homestead. Call that 850 rounds. I also had a Glock 48 that I had milled for a 507k, but it didn't work out, so I sold it after 1,200 rounds or so because it would not chamber carry ammo.

I currently have a HS407k on my EDC, a P365X. I like the 6 MOA dot, in case I need it for the worst day or my life. I have somewhere around 900 rounds on the gun.

I believe there are at least three very significant advantages to a Red Dot / RMR / MRDS on a pistol.

1) If you are at an age where focusing on the front sight is problematic, seeing the dot becomes much, much easier. Most MRDS are virtually parallax free these days, meaning as long as your index is good enough to see the dot anywhere in the lens, when you press off the shot, the round will land where the dot is pointing.

Shooting with glases that have bifocals (my case) is particularly problematic with iron sights. I recently had been having issues seeing the front sight without tilting my head back. Using a dot allows me to have one focus, all the time. My head position does not matter. Some worry about stance with iron sights. In a gun fight, the only stance you are going to get is happen stance. Using a dot means no matter what physical position you are in, if the dot is on target when you press the trigger, you will get a hit.

There is some learning to do. It's just a new sighting system. New dot shooters need to develop their index such that they have a reliable, consistent presentation. It's not hard, it just takes some work.


2) All shooting is done with target (or threat, if you will) focal plane. You are not going back and forth from near to far focus.

Target focused shooting is something very good competitive shooters do. Of course they have extremely well developed indexes, dry practicing thousands of reps. The sights "just appear" in front of the target.

Shooting with a dot focus makes shot calling faster. You can see, really see, where your round would land as soon as you break the shot. You don't need to see the holes. If you see an Alpha and a Charlie using the sight picture, then you know to shoot a make up shot.


3) Using a dot will make you a better shooter, and will carry over to iron sights. Incorporating the dot in Dry Practice has cleaned up my index and trigger control trremendously. I think this is an under appreciated benefit of MRDS. The sight is still wobbling around, just as before, it's that now you can see exactly where the dot is at the shot break. With this info, you can work on your grip and trigger control so that the shot breaks when the dot is on target.


Disadvantages of a dot include: the learning curve, the added complexity of the various mounting systems, potential for exposure of open emitter dots, and cost. To a large degree, the learning curve can be mitigated through either regular practice, and/or a good instructor such as Asian Jedi or Aaron Cowan. But you do have to practice at it, in the beginning.

The complexity of dot mounting has gotten and is getting better. The Sig "X" adoption of the RMSc footprint is an example. The factory gun requires no plate, just two screws torqued to spec, attached to the slide. Smaller, carry ready 1" wide closed emitter dots are also coming, witness Holosun's release on their new EPS Carry model at SHOT show 2022. Gun makers are making optic ready slides with much simpler and more robust direct cross bolt mounts, eliminating the screw-on approach. For example, S&W currently law-enforcement only SKU for the M&P cut specifically for the ACRO. Sig introduced the M17, closed-emmiter dot at SHOT 2023 with an innovative front "toe" with a single retaining screw at 40 in lbs, same as the iron sight plate it replaces. Almost so simple a caveman could do it.

Obviously the cost of a dot is a discriminator for many, and I get that.

Bottom line, I have no problem if you choose to continue to use iron sights; they are effective. They don't require batteries. They always work. They are simple, cheap, and highly functional.

However many of us chose dots, not because "race gun" or "latest fashion", but because we tried them, and found them to offer solid, demonstrable, objective advantages over iron sights. For us, putting in the work to develop an index, having a single target focal plane, and overall improvement in shooting via diagnostics with a dot is worth the cost and complexity. I personally would guess, especially for new shooters entering the market, in 2-3 years, having a dot on a pistol is going to be as ubiquitous as a MRDS on a patrol rifle, but we'll see.
 
All my handguns have optics now. I won't even consider one that isn't factory cut for an optic which at this point should be standard.
No it should not be standard!

I have my slides milled and can guarantee mine fit better than yours.
I describe the ones you want as comparable to a hooker the day after the super bowl, one size fits all.

Mine do not need plates so they sit lower and since the slide is cut for the exact optic there is zero slop.

I won't buy the Sig or M&P 10mm because all they offer is the useless factory cut which have the wrong back up sights (that I would have to replace) so it is counter productive for me to even consider.
 
I agree with @Rich Jenkins and many others. I am 73 and the red/green dots are quite helpful. I don't have a red dot on my 365 Short cargo pocket gun, but I do with my Macro OWB gun and my 320 my former OWB gun. There is a learning curve, but it is not as steep as some make it out to be. Dry firing has been the key for me. I love my dots!!!!
 
I personally find them slower than iron sights, and bulky on handguns. I have 3 platforms (all SIG) that have them installed, and have been practicing with them at the range.

I do use them on AR platforms, and like them there. The Aimpoint is the best I own.
 
No it should not be standard!
I have my slides milled and can guarantee mine fit better than yours.
I describe the ones you want as comparable to a hooker the day after the super bowl, one size fits all.

Mine do not need plates so they sit lower and since the slide is cut for the exact optic there is zero slop.
I couldn't agree more my 43X slide was milled for $135 for the Holosun 407 Green dot. Never looked back!!
 
I had my M&P Shield 45 slide milled and Trijicon RMRcc installed. I really do like it. Seems a natural follow-on to point shooting, allowing more precise longer distance aim, if needed. Looking at target instead of sights.
 
Yeah, our home defense/bedside gun has Trijicon's RMR mounted. My carry experience with red dot optics remains a work-in-progress, but on a bedside weapon - It's perfect!!

I've run Sig and several other optic brands, all have had reliability issues, but RMR has been totally bomb-proof. I'm 70 with astigmatism and not great eyesight, so my RMR has the fat 6.5 dot which is easy/quick to see.

Here's FNX-45T with RMR
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No it should not be standard!

I have my slides milled and can guarantee mine fit better than yours.
I describe the ones you want as comparable to a hooker the day after the super bowl, one size fits all.

Mine do not need plates so they sit lower and since the slide is cut for the exact optic there is zero slop.

I won't buy the Sig or M&P 10mm because all they offer is the useless factory cut which have the wrong back up sights (that I would have to replace) so it is counter productive for me to even consider.
Cool bro. Get what you like. Paying for slide milling is a waste of $. Most are factory cut for RMR which works fine by me.
 
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