How will affect your trade in or resale value? Example: I want to trade in one of my P320's, the dealer may not want to give you a better trade in price due to the fact that it would need to have the recall preformed before reselling the pistol, which would tie the investment up for a time before it could be sold. Just one scenario. Just something to consider while deciding weather or not to have the recall preformed.

I've been wondering the same thing. A few things I've always considered is that it is not a recall, the P320 is safe in its current condition, and so they can't technically "lowball" you and give you less then it's worth. The upgrade is also free and would be no expense to you or the dealer besides lost time. If anything, most they can do is refuse to take your trade. The P320 is still a great pistol and worth the money but people shouldn't be offering you less then what it is worth just because there's controversy about dropping your weapon at a -30 angle and taking a hammer to the striker.


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As far as trade-in value, it's completely up to the discretion of the gun store, and how well they think they can resell the pistol. Unfortunately, even new P320's in their current state are seen as 'damaged goods' by many, taken off of dealer shelves my others. So right now, I can see their trade-in value as being even less than that of a .40S&W gun.

 

Speaking of .40S&W, really want one of those CHP 4006 TSW to add to my collection lol

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How will affect your trade in or resale value? Example: I want to trade in one of my P320's, the dealer may not want to give you a better trade in price due to the fact that it would need to have the recall preformed before reselling the pistol, which would tie the investment up for a time before it could be sold. Just one scenario. Just something to consider while deciding weather or not to have the recall preformed.

First thing, it is an update not an official recall so a lot of dealers probably won't send them in unless they get a letter from Sig requiring a send-in.

My local dealer still has the Sig 320's in his showcase & actually raised the price $15.00 in anticipation of there being a break in the supply chain making the 320 more difficult to find in the near future. When I asked if he was going to send his current stock back to Sig he said positively not unless Sig sends him an official letter to comply with the update.

But he also told me he will tell any prospective owner about the voluntary update & drop safety issue before they buy it.

 

I stand corrected.

 

If you plan on reselling it someday, you are better off sending it in for the update so that it cannot be used against you.

 

I can see resale being affected since the new caliber conversion kits won't fit an unmodified FCU, and easy caliber exchanges are part of the reason the P320 was so well accepted. Common sense says if I were buying a used (previously owned/unfired) P320 I would much prefer a modified one since I could then buy NEW conversion kits OR previously owned conversion kits that had been sent in for modification, and not have to look around for a first generation unmodified slide, which may end up being rather scarce.

 

I think you have that a bit backwards there. The disconnector cut in the slide is not going to cause any problem with old FCGs functioning with the new production slides as they are just removing a bit of material for the disconnector to function correctly with the updated FCG design. You'd be better off with an pre-update FCG if all you're worried about conversion kits functioning with your gun because they would all (pre and post update) function with the pre-update FCG, but if you have the updated FCG then then the pre-update conversions without a disconnector cut in the slide would not work.

 

I like mine, and if I ever find something I want to be my EDC, I will still relegate this one to backup. But that does raise a good question. I wonder how long the upgrade window will be open, or if you can always get it done no matter if 5 years from now? If so, then I would definitely get mine done before I sold it. I have been looking for bargains in case this upgrade is affecting prices on those who are still selling the P320, but I am not finding any yet. Now when the upgraded one hits the market, then I presume the resale value goes down. So it would seem that those who want to sell may want to sell now.

 

Good question. Has anyone asked Sig CS if they have a time frame for the upgrade?

 

No matter what you do upgrade or not upgrade, there are plenty of gun dealers that will hold this upgrade against the value of your gun when trading it. It will take quite some time for this to change.

I've been buying lots of guns for many decades and find the new gun dealers that have been business to be the worst of business people ever. A friend of mine purchased a gun from a LGS [ I was with him] and determined that the gun just didn't fit him went back after 2 days un shot and the dealer offered him $250 for a gun he just paid $575 for. many gun dealers are thieves. Another friend bought a used gun at Gander Mountain went back after 1 week and they wanted to give him $325 less than he paid and this was a used gun. Thieves that's all I can say.

 

I'm thinking the real answer to the question will come after people start getting their guns back from Sig and reporting how the update affected the trigger pull. If there are any negative effects on the trigger pull (something like a heavier pull weight or odd feel) then guns without the update might become more desirable.

This "not a recall" has me thinking back to the XD-S recall a few years ago. The updated parts in that recall absolutely ruined the trigger pull of the XD-S and I recall a local who had posted on backpage specifically looking for a pre-recall production XD-S that had not been sent in.

Personally, I'm not sending either of mine in until sometime next year. Mostly I want to avoid being without the guns for a few months, I know Sig quoted 4-6 week turnaround, but with over half a million guns out there and people losing their freaking minds over this issue you know they will get flooded and wait times will likely double. Also, I don't want to be a Sig beta tester for this new trigger system and want to see what others say about it. If everything is great and no negative effects on the trigger pull are caused by the updated parts I will send mine in one at a time. If the trigger pull is adversely impacted by the the update I will keep mine as is.

 

I'm thinking the real answer to the question will come after people start getting their guns back from Sig and reporting how the update affected the trigger pull. If there are any negative effects on the trigger pull (something like a heavier pull weight or odd feel) then guns without the update might become more desirable.

This "not a recall" has me thinking back to the XD-S recall a few years ago. The updated parts in that recall absolutely ruined the trigger pull of the XD-S and I recall a local who had posted on backpage specifically looking for a pre-recall production XD-S that had not been sent in.

Personally, I'm not sending either of mine in until sometime next year. Mostly I want to avoid being without the guns for a few months, I know Sig quoted 4-6 week turnaround, but with over half a million guns out there and people losing their freaking minds over this issue you know they will get flooded and wait times will likely double. Also, I don't want to be a Sig beta tester for this new trigger system and want to see what others say about it. If everything is great and no negative effects on the trigger pull are caused by the updated parts I will send mine in one at a time. If the trigger pull is adversely impacted by the the update I will keep mine as is.

^^^^this

 

Read that wrong, or more likely at my age, remembered it wrong. The upgraded slide will work on a non upgraded FCU. Sorry for my confusion. Still sending mine in though, and haven't ruled out selling it later either.

 

You probably wouldn't get much for one at a gun shop regardless.

Their job already is to screw you, that's how they make money

Seriously, I see some of the newer places with guys who keep up with this stuff making a big deal and using it as an excuse to low ball you.

The gun shops that have been around for a hundred years run by old codgers won't really care, they probably offer the same amount for all "Glocks"

 

I see unmodified ones going up in value, unless the upgraded trigger truly is better.

 

This is what I've been think/hoping. Maybe in 5 years my pre "upgrade" P320 that I paid $450 for will be worth $600.


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I think he meant 'statute of limitations' on receiving it for free from Sig....like can we get it done if we send it in a year or longer from now?

 

Yes, that's what I mean. I would think the shipping label would be good for only so long. I guess I should have found that out before I registered my serial number.

 

Used polymer is barely worth anything on resale or trade anyway. I never make a purchase based on what I think a gun shop will give me later. I buy based on what I want at the time. I like my X-Five P320 just the way it is and don't care what anyone else thinks.

I have carried many 1911's over the years, with a round in the chamber, knowing it might go off if I dropped it and I take the same approach when shooting IDPA, USPSA or 3-Gun.

It is great for "Limited" in USPSA.

 

Being all-stainless, probably wasn't the most svelte of sidearms....especially for the bike-riders.

 

I'm at a stage in my life where I only buy, and do not trade or sell. I'll b keeping mine as-is.

But if I were still in the swapping mode, I'd probably want the upgrade done.

 

Its going to be one of those things that are up to the buyer and how they feel about the situation. I sold my full size .45 recently (post dropgate). All I could do on my end was price it right and make sure any potential buyer had all the info they needed to make an educated buying decision. I was either going to keep it or sell it before filling out any information for the upgrade. I knew filling anything out would only prolong the sale or make it more difficult to do it later if they chose too. It was more worth it for me to price it attractively and wait for someone that would prefer the ball be in their court as far as the upgrade went. Rather then me wait months for the upgrade to happen then try and sell it. With there still being a chance they be even less attractive to someone later. I also sold mine with an Apex flat trigger. fdor me it was better to sell low and sell fast, rather than waste all that time doing the upgrade just to sell it anyway.

 

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/683764075

7 days left, 20 bids. Used compact, contrast sights, 340 right now. I doubt it stays under 400.

 

I guess 20 bids with 7 days left means nobody wants it.

I might put in a bid, but not a dime over 345

 

Anyone trying to sell a p320 right now is a moron (Sorry if any of you are trying to sell, lol). Especially to a gun dealer.
If you wait a month or two it's likely that all this negative buzz will go away and the resale values will go up again.
I have three p320's, one with a safety. All have GGI triggers in them. I am probably only going to send my compact in after people start getting theirs back and we see if Sig did indeed fix the "problem".
I could see non-mod guns being more valuable but only in 50-60+ years when people are collecting them. They've made 500,000 already, not a very "rare" bird to begin with.

 

Never say never, I know, but I'm 99.9% sure I will never sell my P320. I am not opting for the upgrade -- I plan on keeping it for the long run plus I have the (lower weight) GG trigger.

If I want an 'upgraded' version, I'll just buy new P320 once the dust settles. In the meantime, if supply/demand dictates that the P320's pricing will be downwardly affected by the view of it being 'damaged goods', so much the better for me.

I may be a bit of an optimist in saying this; IMO, the lack of the upgrade may - someday in the far-flung future - be a desireable feature, somewhat akin to that of a 'no-dash/no mod' S&W wheel gun.

My $0.02USD.

 

i've never sold a gun, so its not a concern for me.

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Mine will go back, it is already on the list. I'm not too sure what I think about value, as I bought it for a truck gun (it came with 4 mags and at a good price as the LGS wanted to be rid of it to generate some cash).

And mine has a thumb safety, which I like (grew up with 1911s). I have not seen another TS in my local market.

I've made a point to not shoot it, no point in building expectations. I'll evaluate it when it comes back. I'm not shy about shipping it back if I don't like the outcome.

 

I'd say the trade-in value will be significantly lower. I just picked up another 2 brand new P320s for about $465 each (after shipping/ffl transfer fee) from Gun Broker. The nice thing is that I can send them in right away for the free upgrade.

 

I bought my Sig P320 SC with contrast sights before the pistol got popular and paid well under $400, ffl fee and all. There are certain GB sellers where you can get a good price. They are, of course, usually the biggest sellers so they can afford to sell for less because they sell so many. But when a weapon is hot, it doesn't matter who has it.

 

What if I don't return my P320 for the upgrade?

1. Liability - in my State, it's the law that I'm the one who is liable for anything to do with guns, whether it's hidden and someone panics because it accidentally "prints", or if it is deemed defective by an anti gun judge or jury, or whatever. I'm ALWAYS liable, no matter the situation. The only counter to any legal attack or maneuver is that I make every effort to take all possible and practical actions to minimize my liability, from locking everything in a vault, to using trigger guard locks, to carrying in a way that minimizes printing, to getting a well documented gun defect repaired.

2. For all of the folks who claimed that they've handled guns for 40, 50, 60 or more years without a single drop incident or unintended discharge, well, I applaud them. Statistically, they've beaten the odds well beyond reasonable calculation. Sure, I'm careful, cautious, caring, etc. I train myself on the fundamentals of gun handling and let other folks beat them into my brain every time I can get. No insults to my intelligence or ego, or common sense, the more training on safety, the better. Here comes the big "however" statement. However, I am not getting any younger, I'm diabetic, and "life happens". I have dropped guns. In a holster, out of holster, while cleaning, unloaded and yes, you will all scream - while loaded. No drop fires, yet. So, for me, and perhaps only me, I'm realistic in trying even harder nowadays to be even more conscious and careful. However, drop safety is becoming more important to me as the days go on, and as I unconsciously lose sensation in my fingers.

It's for these reasons that I've unloaded my P320 pistols and stored them in my vault, I've registered to get them fixed, and eventually, I will let Sig fix them. Sure, I may lose a few ounces of trigger pressure to squeeze off a round. It's likely that my P320 guns will never have any resale value down the line. I'll continue to read other folks' complaints about repair issues, etc. However, (hey you expected this by now, right?), I'll also continue making monthly payments to the legal consortium to cover me for anything to do with my guns (civil or criminal), and I'll continue to let everyone lecture me on gun safety anytime they want.

And if I read another post about someone else saying they have had no gun handling issues for several decades, so they don't expect any issues in the future, I'll quietly roll my eyes in total disbelief and get ready to write a sympathy card for their accident when it happens.

 

What if I don't return my P320 for the upgrade?



1. Liability - in my State, it's the law that I'm the one who is liable for anything to do with guns, whether it's hidden and someone panics because it accidentally "prints", or if it is deemed defective by an anti gun judge or jury, or whatever. I'm ALWAYS liable, no matter the situation. The only counter to any legal attack or maneuver is that I make every effort to take all possible and practical actions to minimize my liability, from locking everything in a vault, to using trigger guard locks, to carrying in a way that minimizes printing, to getting a well documented gun defect repaired.



2. For all of the folks who claimed that they've handled guns for 40, 50, 60 or more years without a single drop incident or unintended discharge, well, I applaud them. Statistically, they've beaten the odds well beyond reasonable calculation. Sure, I'm careful, cautious, caring, etc. I train myself on the fundamentals of gun handling and let other folks beat them into my brain every time I can get. No insults to my intelligence or ego, or common sense, the more training on safety, the better. Here comes the big "however" statement. However, I am not getting any younger, I'm diabetic, and "life happens". I have dropped guns. In a holster, out of holster, while cleaning, unloaded and yes, you will all scream - while loaded. No drop fires, yet. So, for me, and perhaps only me, I'm realistic in trying even harder nowadays to be even more conscious and careful. However, drop safety is becoming more important to me as the days go on, and as I unconsciously lose sensation in my fingers.



It's for these reasons that I've unloaded my P320 pistols and stored them in my vault, I've registered to get them fixed, and eventually, I will let Sig fix them. Sure, I may lose a few ounces of trigger pressure to squeeze off a round. It's likely that my P320 guns will never have any resale value down the line. I'll continue to read other folks' complaints about repair issues, etc. However, (hey you expected this by now, right?), I'll also continue making monthly payments to the legal consortium to cover me for anything to do with my guns (civil or criminal), and I'll continue to let everyone lecture me on gun safety anytime they want.



And if I read another post about someone else saying they have had no gun handling issues for several decades, so they don't expect any issues in the future, I'll quietly roll my eyes in total disbelief and get ready to write a sympathy card for their accident when it happens.

I have never written a sympathy card.