Hickok is a Simp for who ever pays him. He definitely knows a lot about firearms, and is also pretty good shot, but he's definitely not honest. When he says things like Glock are as good as anything else, I can't believe anything else he says. Sure Glock is a decent firearm, but not even close to any real gun.

 

Sure Glock is a decent firearm, but not even close to any real gun.

what‘s that statement even mean?

 

Boy I touched some nerves. Glock fanboies on a Sig forum. Who knew. Glock is the first of the plastic guns. The sell a lot because they are cheap and easy to use. What is the real innovation? Recycled soda bottles? At least the company's that followed instilled some creativity. Especially Sig. The only changes in the design were to fix the problems with Massive NDs, and to quash the Glock leg reputation. That Sig is now dealing with. I have fired a Glock exactly 1 time when a friend got one out of curiosity from all of the hype. We both agreed that although it was accurate, and seemed reliable, it just felt cheap, and didn't feel good in the hand. But in my opinion it is just another tool for low budget options. Until you stuff it full of after market parts to get close to working like it should from the factory. Oh...wait a minute they did that,and got Glock leg.

 

Congrats. You'll soon have the honor of being the only person I've ignored. Primarily because you are in diametrical opposition to having an open mind. You double down on it while offering that you fired one a single time. Ignorance as shown by recent politics, is a potent poison, and highly contageous. Some lib will employ you as a useful idiot in their service, probably to promote more gun control, and with minimal effort on their part. Adios.

 

I haven't watched the guy for several years. So I wouldn't know about sponsorship. But from what I had seen his Glock bias was as obvious as my Sig bias. The difference is, I will happily admit it. He is not doing what he does for nothing, It doesn't matter what he says, he is getting paid very well just for being there. I have no clue what you are saying about the full auto thing, but if you are implying that it is something great, then I don't know what to say about that,other than the idea of a fully automatic pistol is counter intuitive to common sense. This isn't the only subject that disagree with the masses about. I think that the public as a whole been brainwashed into 9mm being some new and improved wonder bullet that is nothing like it used to be. It's already been shown that half the people will believe what the internet tells them to believe. And we can see how dangerous that is. I never have based my opinions on others opinions, or popularity of an item. My opinion of 9mm comes from many years of hands on experience with it. But it took only 1 range session to see that Glock was definitely not for me. Those who like the Glock is fine by me, and feel no desire to insult them,same for the 9mm. But that doesn't mean I have to buy either. My point is that Hiccok, and many just like him are disingenuous about their motives just to get clicks and money.

 

Joey WeebleWobble Biden assured US that a 9mm will blow yer heid clean aff !!!

 

 

Tylenoltism

 

I think sootch00 does one of the best and respectable reviews out there. Short time showing the gun in action so you can look at recoil and ejection patern, item history and relevant prior models, great up close bench top review, field strip, competitors, accuracy test, pros and cons, and cost. No cursing or crude jokes, good lighting and audio.

 

Never forget he's a paid shill for most of these folks - take that for what it's worth. Every gun he reviews is the "best."

 

Well I’ve seen Glocks perform in real-world conditions where multi-thousand dollar custom guns failed. I guess it depends on the reason you utilize a firearm.

 

I got to fire a G18 once with a full 33rd mag. It sure was a hoot! I wish I'd been able to shoot it a lot more.

 

So this is the famous "SWITCH" I heard the crews in Chi-Town flexin on.

 

Mmmmm, close. The G18 is an actual Glock model designed designed decades ago with full auto capability, it's a legit NFA item. The switches the thugs use are a reverse engineered version of what Glock designed.

 

Glock is the Honda Civic of firearms. Useful & reliable with thousands of upgrade options. However the ergonomics are horrible & if you have anything other than a medium size hands or smaller. The slide will cut you to shreds. The best thing they had going for them in the past was the price point. So many better options, Sig, Beretta, CZ, Walther, HK, S&W. Just to name a few.

 

Strange, I’ve never had my hands , “cut to shreds” by a Glock, or any other semi, or full auto pistols. It’s amazing! When a person grips a pistol properly, they tend not to get their hands, “cut to shreds.”

 

I owned a Cluck 20+ years ago. It never felt right to me. I sold or traded it, don't remember. From then until today I disregard anything that mentions Cluck. Just like this post......I saw it was about a Cluck and kept scrolling. It should never be a topic on this forum.

 

I saw it was about a Cluck and kept scrolling

No you didn't. You replied with some stupid misspelling of Glock to try to make some point only funny to you.

I'm thrilled when people like you post. Makes it easy to add you to ignore and filter out even more "noise" vs. actually valuable posters.

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but 80 +% of what's said here is opinion! Personal experience isn't carved in stone, IF we're being honest. We're NOT Ballistic Scientists, although we read and regurgitate what other 'Experts' say.

 

I've watched HK45 evolve over the years. He has built himself a nice cozy backyard business and I respect that.
As the years flew by and his videos kept getting longer it bacame apparent that he was trying to kill time with pander and small talk, often repeating himself 8 or 10 times. I know it's hard to talk about something for an hour even though you just did it yesterday, last week, last month, last year......So, I got to hand that to him too.

Like the man said, just my opinion.

 

Some people just get too emotionally invested in their own truths. I for example have made my decisions on what, and how I carry. I can handle it when people tell me that my gun is too heavy, or too powerful for the likely purpose for which it will be used. Or that a DA first pull sux. I agree that for some people that may be true. But mention anything wrong with Glock, then then the "Blue hair fire" reactions start. People that are comfortable with what they say or do don't react poorly when challenged.

 

I always try to start out by making it known that I don't know anything about Glocks.
But somehow it always sounds like I'm bragging.

 

I have always enjoyed watching Hickok45.

And if GLOCK offered a model that didn't point dangerously high (the unnecessary hollow bulge on the lower backstrap is what ruins the ergos for me), I'd have bought a G21 over three decades ago.

But since they still haven't perfected their wonky ergonomics, I ended up having to buy a G21 that actually is Perfection to me- the CZ P-10 F .45 Auto...

 

My experience with Sigs & Glocks goes back to '87 (p220 & g17) and have accumulated a few more since; I have hands on the smallish side of medium (if that makes sense). I tend toward the g19.2 for carry these days for the size/capacity ratio. The newer sig grip design with the srt fits my hand "perfectly"; good thing Christmas is coming. "H45" is as guilty of stretching videos as any other monetized you tuber; the pundits that make me go to mute and CC are the endless coffee, cc insurance, and supplement blahblahs (I made that word up). Remember they gotta pay the bills; it's never about the money, it's the amount.

 

"Supplemental blah blah"..."wonky"...

Bestest thread in the year I've been here and around! 😍😍😍

I'm waiting for the mikedrop "mindwank" and my life will be complete!

🙏

(Enjoyed some of the dry humour posts; the passive aggressive and outright personal attacks, not so much...)

Carry on!

👏

 

I hope that he has the proper licensing for that machine-pistol . Where is ICE , or the ATF , et al ?

 

Why? "Shall not" is pretty clear.

 

Id happily take a glock over any sig p2xx gun. Wouldnt even have a second thought. Pistols are lame, so i just want on thats reliable/light/usable till i can get to my rifle, which is what matters. The p2 series havent been good for decades, and its nostalgia that keeps em selling (and the pennies on the dollar that they can be bought surplus).

 

The p2 series havent been good for decades, and its nostalgia that keeps em selling (and the pennies on the dollar that they can be bought surplus).

LOL. Many law enforcement agencies would disagree... and SIG is still selling them well enough to still be selling them.

Where are you finding P22X's for literal pennies on the dollar?

 

If you can't be with the one you love (to shoot), love the one your with.

I'm member on a Sig forum, and gasp, a Glock forum. I've owned and shot many rounds thru both brands. I care less about what type of mechanism is inside the pistol. Only things that matters to me are reliability, comfort in the hand, and can I place rounds on target with the pistol.

For me, the grip angle of a Glock is something I could not get used to. That is on me, not the design of the pistol. That issue leads to not being able to put rounds on target as well as with a pistol that feels natural to me. There are far far to many Glocks in circulaiton with folk that are satisfied with them for anyone to find actual fault. Personal preference does not count as a fault.


Back to what I feel was the original intent of (edit in quotes) "the first post by Aeots": Hickock45 is perhaps the most honest Youtuber out there in the firearms genre. He does not take payments for demoing a particular firearm. Since Youtube demonetized his channel, he has gone to other ways of generating income, but getting paid for glowing reviews is not one of those ways. OP, you are way off base. Just because he reviews a brand of firearm that you dislike, does not make him a schill for that brand.

Glock is not my favorite brand of pistol, but I do not let it cloud my vision of reality. Glocks are what they are whether you find them to your liking or not.

 

Did anybody notice that it was a video about shooting a full auto handgun? I thought it was pretty cool.

Do Beretta next.

 

LoL

 

This has been the most interesting thread I’ve read in forever. I can’t remember the last time I read every single post in a thread.

I think there are interesting points made on both sides. I won’t confirm or deny my feelings about anything specific. However. You had to know a however was coming.
However. I find this sentence to be intellectually dishonest.
“What is the real innovation?”

When Glocks first hit the American market in the 1980s, I like many people turned our collective noses up at the ugly, cheap, plastic pistols with the funny name. Then police departments started adopting them because of capacity, ease of use, simplicity or maintenance and reliability.

They innovated in capacity, materials and safety. Before Glocks there wasn’t a spate of “high capacity” pistols. Glock is the reason Walther, HK, Smith and Wesson and so many others use the split trigger safety. While Glock didn’t invent the striker fired pistol, they may have been the first to put it in a Browning tilting barrel pistol instead of a fixed barrel, direct blowback design.
Glock may not have made the first polymer framed pistol, but they were the first to use it exclusively. And while others copy the striker fire platform, they make a safe, reliable firearm most people can afford.

I’m an unapologetic Sig fanboy. Hell I’ve spent the last two days working the Shoot Sig match at my local gun club and bashing on Glock shooters playfully. Like so many Sig owners, I own a few Glocks. I don’t love them the way I love my Sigs, but I give Gaston and his plastic fantastic their due for changing the landscape of duty and self defense pistols.

 

"When Glocks first hit the American market in the 1980s, I like many people turned our collective noses up at the ugly, cheap, plastic pistols with the funny name. Then police departments started adopting them because of capacity, ease of use, simplicity or maintenance and reliability."

I bought one of the first to land at my LDS . Gen 1 ; smooth frame ,adj sight , magazine did not drop free . Lovely .

 

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I like Sootch, and I miss Jeff Quinn.
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Weird…I’m not sure who the J Quinn is that you’re referring to but the only one I knew was a video post production engineer in Hollywood who committed suicide by shooting himself in the chest about 17 years ago.

 

Notice the Hitch’s recoil control and accuracy with that thing. Scary. It makes me think that there are people who can actually shoot like some of these action characters in movies where I say to my wife “ nobody can shoot like that!”.

 

Love how this thread devolved. Seeing it happen even in specialized forums where people have common interests is emblematic of political conflicts in our Western societies and elsewhere. As this manifests in daily behavior of people we encounter, its also why I haven’t lived in a densely populated area for decades.