[Lancer L5 AWM]

Quite frankly cost and value especially for a range optic. There are many choices out there and I wouldn't always reccomend the more expensive option. Doubling the cost doesn't double the value. When the majority of the components are manufactured over seas and just assembled in the US. I'd still say it not truly US made. Higher profit because of cheap labor to manufacture the components overseas, minimum US labor to assemble and higher cost to the consumer with the assembled in US label.
It's a weakness across the board for this country from textiles, to automobiles, electronics and pretty much anything else you can think of. We won wars because of our industrial manufacturing power. Now we've given that security away across the board. Weakening our country in the end. I hope the current administration can bring manufacturing back to our shores. But when Hyundai builds a plant in Georgia to bring jobs to an area of the country imports a majority of the parts and staffs the factory with imported illegals. It does nothing to help Americans or the people of Georgia who probably gave them tax breaks to build that plant. But it says "Made in USA" on those cars.

LoL! your whole comment reads like you're making my points for me, but I think you designed it to make you look better, while still rationalizing your choices!

It's a strawman argument and deflection to even mention 'doubling the cost' when NO ONE said that, and the same for the part about 'US made' when I clearly stated "Assembled in USA".

Yeah that's what I figured- cheap price, despite the fact the Sig Romeo X Compact, both the open and closed emitter versions, can very often be found at street prices within a few dollars of the very oem Ch****e brand you usually mention.

Sig is an American company with great Customer Service employing Americans to do "primary and substantial transformation assembly in the USA" as required by the US gov't.

Your points are almost always better arguments to not buy chicom, but you somehow wind up rationalizing it.


From page 12 of the link below:

"Assembled in USA Claims A product that includes foreign components may be called “Assembled in USA” without qualification when its principal assembly takes place in the U.S. and the assembly is substantial. For the “assembly” claim to be valid, the product’s last “substantial transformation” (see page 14) also should have occurred in the U.S. That’s why a “screwdriver” assembly in the U.S. of foreign components into a final product at the end of the manufacturing process doesn’t usually qualify for the “Assembled in USA” claim."

https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/plain-language/bus03-complying-made-usa-standard.pdf

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[Lancer L5 AWM]

@GuyD

I won't comment further in this thread, but please put me on your ignore list and I'll do the same with you.


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[GuyD]

@GuyD

I won't comment further in this thread, but please put me on your ignore list and I'll do the same with you.


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I value your opinion and appreciate your input to my comments. I won't be ignoring you as you always have good positive things to say. We don't have to agree on everything to have a discussion.

 

[GuyD]

I value your opinion and appreciate your input to my comments. I won't be ignoring you as you always have good positive things to say. We don't have to agree on everything to have a discussion.

I learned that much from Charlie Kirk.

 

[Hemiram]

My only advice is not to spend a ton of money on a green/red dot. Between a friend and me, we have bought and used a ton of them, ranging from $50 cheapies to $400 ones and to be blunt about it, they have all worked fine, the main difference is how long the batteries last. About the only cheap ones we haven't had at least one of are the ones made of plastic. I have Cyelee, CV Life, Holosun, Vortex, and several others, and they almost all cost less than $125. It's not rocket science, it's just a dot. If it holds the point of aim, it's fine. My friend has them on 5.56 AR's and 9mm PCC guns that he and his son are pretty rough with, and a couple of the optics look bad, with gouges and scratches on them, they still work. One hint, replace the batteries that come with the sights, they can be pretty old and we both had one that was leaking in the box before we even put them into the sight. I don't buy any more red dots, just green, I can see it a lot better.

 

[Jaycnyp]

I would suggest the Vortex defender ccw or the sig Romeo x enclosed. I have had great luck with both, it just depends on how dirty your environment is.

 

[ebyekym]

Romeo X Compact. If you look hard, and have patience, you can find them for under $300.


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On sale today only at Palmetto State Armory for $229

 

[Jim C.]

On sale today only at Palmetto State Armory for $229

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https://palmettostatearmory.com/sig-sauer-romeo-x-compact-3moa-red-dot-sight-black-sorx1231.html

They must have a bunch of stock of the 3MOA version. The others are at regular price.

 

[mreed911]

That's a great deal on the RomeoX Compact. I have one 365 with a Holosun K series, the other with an XCompact optic. I like them both, but given the choice at that price point I'll take the XCompact in 6 MOA every day of the week. Deal above looks like it's only the 3 MOA - still a good deal, just not my preference.

 

[Lock n' Load]

+1 for standard Romeo X Compact. Put one on my P365. It has upper 1/3 co-witness of the standard irons plus no need to remove the optic or re-zero when changing the battery and it's a sturdy metal made in USA. I use the 3moa dot but it also gives you 2 other options, a 32moa circle around the dot or just the 32moa circle. Also "sleeps" when no motion is detected but "wakes" when motion is detected. That said, there are plenty of RMSc direct mounts footprint optics on the market so do your research wisely to find the one that's right for you. No plate direct mount for me. Good luck with your search!

 

[docnsx01]

personal choice of color , reticle size etc, brand loyalty .. Romeo x compact excellent ,,, some have been going with o light ( no green avail yet) , personally went with eps carry in green mrs.. I like to change the reticle to smallest dot when I train and carry worth larger circle and dot... I started wiht this so I put one on all my EDC so it is same on all of them ... I also utilize and optic Gard to add some flair and also protects the optic and adds layer of security from side tray backing out.. I paid 375 no tax and free shipping from guy I met on reddit

 

[Japoison]

I’m had my P365 slide milled for a Trijicon RMRcc.

 

[BajaJames]

https://palmettostatearmory.com/sig-sauer-romeo-x-compact-3moa-red-dot-sight-black-sorx1231.html

They must have a bunch of stock of the 3MOA version. The others are at regular price.

The 3 moa blackout is the cheapest of them all still a good dot but it doesn't have the same features of the regular lineup

 

[sandog]

I had a Romeo X compact on my XL, but I took it off. Nothing wrong with it, multiple reticles just not for me 😎

Can't you just pick the reticle you like and stick with it ?
You don't have to use all of them at once.

 

[enchantingsig]

I’m had my P365 slide milled for a Trijicon RMRcc.
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I am thinking about doing the same. I have an old RMR off of my XDm. Thinking about selling the XDm. Since getting a p365, I never shoot the XDm9. I am afraid of going to a smaller window though. I love my RMR.

 

[mreed911]

Can't you just pick the reticle you like and stick with it ?
You don't have to use all of them at once.

If your dot choice provides multi-reticles, yes. I don't use multi-reticles outside my shotgun, so I typically buy dots with the 6 MOA dot I prefer.

 

[CMDR.Becker]

Can't you just pick the reticle you like and stick with it ?
You don't have to use all of them at once.

It has a red circle and dot; you can remove the ⭕ and leave the 🔴 😎

 

[Slm]

I just got back from my 15 day Arizona vacation, I had plans to have my ffl nefew install a red dot (O'sight S, more on that later) on my P365xl but Amtrak has seen to make it a cluster**** to even baggage check the case and enclosed pistols and a carbine.. Needless to say they did not go on the trip.
I was able to use my nefews and brother-in-laws guns so we had 3 good days shooting.
Now back to my red dot I will be installing it this week, I have Zero issues with O'lights or O'sight, the reason for that is Sig in general outsource manufacturing to other countries "2nd and possibly 3rd world ones at that, so IMHO that (China parts) argument "holds no water"
I will update this thread when it's installed and had its first range trip!

 

[LoProfile]

I really love my Holosun EPS Carry Green Dot on my P365xl

 

[DD130]

These JUST got released, well, to retail that is. $299 for enclosed optic for the 365? YES. I'll take one.

If you're LE (I'm not) there is a sight selling them for about 40% of retail.. below $299.

I have a number of Vortext sights and I like them a lot, most than my Holosuns... just with the graphics were a little more subdued.

Anyhow.. checkem out. There are more review videos appearing every hour.

https://www.sportsmans.com/hunting-gear-supplies/optics-binoculars-scopes-rangefinders/red-dots/c/cat141697?q=%3Arelevance%3Abrand%3AVortex%2BOptics%3Aprice%3A%24299-%24400&min=%24299&max=%24400