[jojacklojack]

Howdy folks, new member to both the forum and Sig ownership. Just got a new p226 ASE (the talo model with alloy frame/ss slide). Put about 500 rounds through it yesterday after cleaning off the quart of oil it came packed in and greasing the appropriate parts with cherry balm. All in all it performed flawlessly with seven different types of ammo, from blazer 115 gr fmj plinkers to win 147 gr jhp's to three different types of Hornady +p jhp's. However, my one "complaint" is that there seems to be an unusual amount of take-up with the srt in SA. The trigger is nice and crisp, with no creep, and the take-up isn't particularly noticeable in rapid fire shooting, but when I take my time to aim carefully off the rest, the extra travel before meeting resistance seems to throw me off a bit. After switching to my S&W e series 1911 I was a little shaky and let a couple rounds fly earlier than I planned given that the 1911 trigger has basically zero take-up.
Is this a function of a firing pin safety needing to be activated? Is there anything that can be done to reduce take-up travel on the srt? As I said, I'm a sig noob, and overall I absolutely love the pistol. Just wondering if any of you sig aficionados had any feedback.
Thanks! Joe

 

[jojacklojack]

Here's a couple pics of the new addition... Also considered the 226 SSE and the Legion, but I'm a sucker for pretty wood grips, and I liked the reduced weight of the alloy frame. Seemed like the best of both worlds.

 

[bearone2]

no longer rosewood grips or just on the ase??

 

[LB001]

Hi,
Right now I'm torn between the 226 SSE ans ASE. How closely does the finish on the frame and slide match? They look identical in the photos. I like the idea of lighter weight but am concerned about the durability of that vapor deposited stainless finish on the frame.

 

[ElJefe]

Every DA/SA gun I’ve handled has had trigger take up and there are others here who can elaborate on why that is. Are you more concerned with the take up in DA or SA? There are ways it can be reduced but I have never known a DA/SA gun to have a trigger like a 1911. If you shoot to the reset (only release the trigger until it resets) you will never notice the take up in SA.

The Armorycraft trigger pretty much eliminates the take up in DA but has no impact on the SA takeup (it does have an over travel stop). Bumper (a member on this forum) has made a device to minimize take up and the Sig Armorer has a QRT package but reducing the take up will not give you the feel of a SAO trigger. “QTR shortens the single action reset just like the Sig SRT but only by about 50%. It does; however, have two additional features that SRT does not. QTR features reduced take-up by nearly 50% in Single Action mode and 75% in Double Action mode thru proprietary parts-only modifications.” I have no personal experience with the Sig Armorer but others on the forum speak highly of his work.

 

[LB001]

no longer rosewood grips or just on the ase??

The grips on the ASE are walnut with medallion; rosewood on the SSE with no medallion.

 

[Willard]

jojacklojack, I assume you are talking about the take-up on the "Short Reach Trigger".
The term "SRT" has 2 meanings, and I question if you are referring to "Short Reset Trigger" as you're talking about pre-travel, and not reset.
It's unfair to compare a Single Action "Only" design (1911), to a Double Action/Single Action design (P226). There are "Aftermarket" triggers available to compensate for this "Pre-travel".

 

[jojacklojack]

Every DA/SA gun I’ve handled has had trigger take up and there are others here who can elaborate on why that is. Are you more concerned with the take up in DA or SA? There are ways it can be reduced but I have never known a DA/SA gun to have a trigger like a 1911. If you shoot to the reset (only release the trigger until it resets) you will never notice the take up in SA.

The Armorycraft trigger pretty much eliminates the take up in DA but has no impact on the SA takeup (it does have an over travel stop). Bumper (a member on this forum) has made a device to minimize take up and the Sig Armorer has a QRT package but reducing the take up will not give you the feel of a SAO trigger. “QTR shortens the single action reset just like the Sig SRT but only by about 50%. It does; however, have two additional features that SRT does not. QTR features reduced take-up by nearly 50% in Single Action mode and 75% in Double Action mode thru proprietary parts-only modifications.” I have no personal experience with the Sig Armorer but others on the forum speak highly of his work.

Thanks for the feedback. In DA, there's no issue with take up. The pull is smooth all the way through, albeit heavy. I was referring to the take up in SA. As I mentioned, in rapid fire situations I don't notice it, as I only release the trigger to reset. I only noticed it when slow firing with careful, deliberate sighting. Even then, it wasn't really a 'problem', just took some getting used to. After a few hundred rounds through the sig, I switched back to the 1911, and was a little thrown off by the total lack of take up. This is my first DA/SA semi auto. All my other semi's are SAO, and while my 686 revolver is SA/DA, it's obviously a completely different animal. I liked the idea of the SA/DA semi auto for a carry piece, as it keeps things safe and simple... draw gun, pull trigger, gun goes bang. Looks like I'm gonna be forced to spend more time at the range to get used to the different platform. I hate it when that happens!
Thanks again for the input. Cheers, Joe

 

[jojacklojack]

jojacklojack, I assume you are talking about the take-up on the "Short Reach Trigger".
The term "SRT" has 2 meanings, and I question if you are referring to "Short Reset Trigger" as you're talking about pre-travel, and not reset.
It's unfair to compare a Single Action "Only" design (1911), to a Double Action/Single Action design (P226). There are "Aftermarket" triggers available to compensate for this "Pre-travel".

Thanks for the feedback. This is my first SA/DA semi auto, so yeah, I guess I was being unfair. Certainly didn't mean to sound like I was whinging, because I'm really (REALLY) pleased with the overall performance of the pistol. I've never had a smoother shooting firearm. Just going to have to take a little getting used to the different action of the SA/DA. As if I needed an excuse to spend more time at the range!

 

[jojacklojack]

Hi,
Right now I'm torn between the 226 SSE ans ASE. How closely does the finish on the frame and slide match? They look identical in the photos. I like the idea of lighter weight but am concerned about the durability of that vapor deposited stainless finish on the frame.

I would rate the finish at 4 out of five stars. There is a little variation of the finish on the frame (I've attached a pic, but it may be difficult to see). As it's brand new, I can't speak to how it will hold up long term. I got it with the intention of using it as a full time carry piece, and I suspect that over time, especially in and out of the holster, the frame finish will probably show some wear. However, as the aluminum alloy is corrosion resistant with or without the finish, the only thing affected would be aesthetics. I'm not sure how the finish on the legions holds up over time, but I'm sure others on the forum would be happy to weigh in on that. For me, it came down to preferring the walnut grips. I know the tacops guys will roll their eyes at me, but I'm a woodworker by trade, and have a (perhaps silly) affinity for wood grips. Also, the ASE is a couple hundred bucks less expensive than the SSE or legion, and more than half a pound lighter than the SSE. In a perfect world, I'd have all three, but this seemed like a good place to start, and I'm very happy with the decision so far.
Hope that helps...
Cheers, Joe