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A while ago I ran a topic about what should be my second Sig. I made a list of the suggestions, since they all were good ones. I found a P239 that was on that list and within my cash purchase price limit. It was a Nitron, not an SAS model.

I read with interest the recent P239 thread about the pros and cons. I liked all the pros so I was pretty sure I would like it. I was hoping for a interesting, good shooting gun to put into my carry rotation. I sometimes carry a 1911 compact so the weight isn't an issue.

I do have some questions.

Of course, the gun was used. It was sold over the internet as "pristine" and only 500 rounds. When I saw the gun I noticed that the barrel had the smile worn into the top, and there was some wear on the chamber part of the barrel where you can see it through the ejection port. Everything else looked good.

Is this barrel wear a concern? I have put 500 rounds through my 220 and there is no such wear marks. I'm guessing that the seller may have underestimated the number of rounds put through the gun or it wasn't lubricated properly. Is there any indication from my description that the barrel needs to be replaced? (maybe a stupid question)

I also would like to know if an SAS slide fits on this gun to turn it into kind of an SAS. If so, do these parts come up used sometimes?

Any other things that need to be checked out? The seller said he used the lube that came with the gun. It looked dry, but the rails look good and unworn.

The rear night sights are dim. What is the best inexpensive replacement sights for this gun?

Finally, can someone provide me with the exact Hogue grip that has the finger grooves? I can't seem to locate that particular grip and I've seen it in photos.

Apologies and thanks for helping me out with my rambling questions.

I'm looking forward to shooting it.
 

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Here's a good one. I think I was lied to by someone selling a gun. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

I had a chance to clean the gun and there was a black sticky substance on the barrel to make it look black and hide the wear. When I cleaned it off the barrel, the top of the square chamber section was down to the metal. there was wear all over the barrel, not just the smile at the top front. There was hidden wear on the hammer too. Looking close the screws on the grips look like they have been removed several times and were a little peaned over.

My guess is that this is an old, very used gun that was sold as "pristine". It's inconceivable that it had only 500 rounds pass through. This was only the third gun I've bought used in my life, so I was a little naïve and trusting.

The only puzzling thing is that the lower part looks in better shape. Could it be assembled from parts? I can't find a serial number on the slide to see if the numbers match

If it shoots I will still be happy with the purchase, It was a good price. But this is one of those life lessons. Many picture, many questions, breaking the gun down when I see if in person and the willingness to walk away from the deal. That will be the order of the day if I ever buy used again.
 

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Pictures??

Without them, we aren't going to be able to offer informed comment. But:

The barrel hood (top) is bare metal on some SIGs. Might the black stuff on the barrel be grease? Proper lubrication would have that greased along with the slide etc.
 

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Pics Would Help

But from what you have described, I don't think you should be concerned.

The top flat of the P239 barrel hood are typically silver (unfinished), so that would be a non-issue. "Barrel wear" marks (smilies) and wear on the sides of the barrel hood would also be normal for this model, so also a non-issue. I would never consider replacing a P239 barrel because of exterior wear marks. Keep it clean and lubed with a light coat of grease on the barrel exterior and inside the hole in the front of the slide where the barrel goes through.

Some wear marks on the hammer face from striking the back of the slide would be normal as well. I would say that it's typical for the components in the upper to show more wear marks than the lower because there is much more mechanical "action" in the upper.

Here's the Hogue rubber grips you are looking for: SIG Sauer P239 Rubber grip with Finger Grooves Black | Hogue Inc.

Don't know about the cost/availability of the SAS slide, but IMO, the P239 is pretty SASy in it's base configuration and doesn't benefit that much from the SIG SAS treatment.

The P239 is a tank of a pistol and will probably out last you if properly maintained. Again, without pics it's impossible to say for sure but from what you describe I don't think you should be concerned. Clean it, lube it, shoot it.
 

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It's a Sig, that said ALL of my sig p series pistols were bought used, why? Value. Since its a Sig p series it will outlast me, you, and a couple more generations
Change the recoil spring if you have concerns of use
Shoot a couple hundred rounds of factory ammo...didn't it run flawless? Bet it did, if so your good to go
 

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Thanks to all! I appreciate everyone easing my mind on this purchase. Like I said, I don't have very much experience with buying used.

The frame rails look great. No noticeable wear at all.

One other point of concern is that the hole in the slide where the barrel fits through is slightly out of round. This looks obvious to be where the barrel struck the top of the hole when firing. This makes the barrel sloppy when the slide is locked back. It reminds me of the 45 I had in the Army. The barrel sounded like a baby rattle when you shook the gun. On the Sig the barrel is tight with the slide forward.

I will take a few photos when I get a chance.
 

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Thanks to all! I appreciate everyone easing my mind on this purchase. Like I said, I don't have very much experience with buying used.

The frame rails look great. No noticeable wear at all.

One other point of concern is that the hole in the slide where the barrel fits through is slightly out of round. This looks obvious to be where the barrel struck the top of the hole when firing. This makes the barrel sloppy when the slide is locked back. It reminds me of the 45 I had in the Army. The barrel sounded like a baby rattle when you shook the gun. On the Sig the barrel is tight with the slide forward.

I will take a few photos when I get a chance.
The hole in the front of slide being out of round is normal and designed that way. New Sigs are the same. The barrel being loose when out of battery is also normal. No worries there. The frame rails showing no wear is a very good thing, keep those rails greased and they will last forever.
 

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The hole in the front of slide being out of round is normal and designed that way. New Sigs are the same. The barrel being loose when out of battery is also normal. No worries there. The frame rails showing no wear is a very good thing, keep those rails greased and they will last forever.
Well, I guess I should just quit complaining and looking for problems and enjoy my new gun. :lol: It's great to hear from people with knowledge. As soon as my gun fund is stoked back up again look for the question, "What should be my third Sig?"
 

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Here's a good one. I think I was lied to by someone selling a gun. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

I had a chance to clean the gun and there was a black sticky substance on the barrel to make it look black and hide the wear. When I cleaned it off the barrel, the top of the square chamber section was down to the metal. there was wear all over the barrel, not just the smile at the top front. There was hidden wear on the hammer too. Looking close the screws on the grips look like they have been removed several times and were a little peaned over.

My guess is that this is an old, very used gun that was sold as "pristine". It's inconceivable that it had only 500 rounds pass through. This was only the third gun I've bought used in my life, so I was a little naïve and trusting.

The only puzzling thing is that the lower part looks in better shape. Could it be assembled from parts? I can't find a serial number on the slide to see if the numbers match

If it shoots I will still be happy with the purchase, It was a good price. But this is one of those life lessons. Many picture, many questions, breaking the gun down when I see if in person and the willingness to walk away from the deal. That will be the order of the day if I ever buy used again.
Mak, I understand how you feel. It has happened to a number of us in the past. I bought my P239 from a LEO who used it a number of years. However, I was surprised how well it shot. One thing you can do in the future is ask for the serial number before mentioning price. This may allow you to get the number years old the firearm is. On the brighter side it evens out. I bought a P226 9mm based on its 1997 age. It turned out it was a home defense pistol that had been hardly shot.

One thing other people on many blogs have taught me to do with any used fire arm I buy is to give the fire arm a good de-greasing. It is not unusual for a fire arm sitting too long in a very dry safe for the oil and grease to dry out. I use non-chlorinated brake cleaner I get from the auto store (this stuff stinks so I do it it the garage). Some like to have the guts get soaked overnight in Hoppe's#9. There are all sorts of others on my list from Gunscrubber, Simple Green, Castrol Super Clean, Purple Power, Odorless Mineral Spirits and Denatured Alcohol. Every body has a favorite...
 

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One thing other people on many blogs have taught me to do with any used fire arm I buy is to give the fire arm a good de-greasing.
With every used SIG that I've purchased (and more than a few NIB ones), I do a complete frame disassembly, clean, lube and reassembly. You would be amazed the crud you find in there. I'm not a fan of spray cleaners on assembled guns; gets most of the crud out quickly but the various pivot pins and holes need to be cleaned and re-lubricated.
 

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With every used SIG that I've purchased (and more than a few NIB ones), I do a complete frame disassembly, clean, lube and reassembly. You would be amazed the crud you find in there. I'm not a fan of spray cleaners on assembled guns; gets most of the crud out quickly but the various pivot pins and holes need to be cleaned and re-lubricated.
ThnkFrst, Great point. I totally agree with no direct spraying. I always apply all fluids on industrial rags, QTips or soak/clean/dry the parts separate. I am always concerned that any fluid I use in cleaning could leave chemical residues that work their way onto a bullet and degrade the bullet.
 
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