[MBJKU]

Hi, I know I need some special punch and also replacement pins if I need to disassemble slides. Anything you might suggest that I could use? Any source of pins? Thanks!

 

[JonasAberg]

I was thinking just yesterday that someone should make a tool, like the sight pusher, for pushing out the firing pin retaining pin. Or is there such a thing already?

 

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^^^^

There is such a tool. It's called a punch.

Depending on the slide, stamped slide, short extractor slide, or long extractor slide, there's different pins (firing pin positioning pins--FPPP) that require different punches. The long extractor slide requires 2 different punches--one is a special half circle punch.

 

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Here's the pins used:

 

[Willard]

Matrix has a modified Starrett punch ... P226 P229 Slide Disassembly Half Round Punch With 3mm Punch For Slides With The Long Extractor — MATRIX PRECISION (matrixprecisionparts.com)

For the Extractor Pivot Pin... Sig Sauer P Series Extractor Pin, New Style: MGW (midwestgunworks.com)

And Firing Pin Positioning Pin... Sig Sauer P Series Firing Pin Retaining Pin: MGW (midwestgunworks.com)

 

[MBJKU]

Matrix has a modified Starrett punch ... P226 P229 Slide Disassembly Half Round Punch With 3mm Punch For Slides With The Long Extractor — MATRIX PRECISION (matrixprecisionparts.com)

For the Extractor Pivot Pin... Sig Sauer P Series Extractor Pin, New Style: MGW (midwestgunworks.com)

And Firing Pin Positioning Pin... Sig Sauer P Series Firing Pin Retaining Pin: MGW (midwestgunworks.com)

Thanks a lot, I guess both pins are Ok for Legions P229/226? Problem with this punch is not available any place. How is that possible that Sig is not selling it anymore, what are they expecting for people to do if they need to clean their slides or replace simple extractor? I own many different pistols, nothing like Sig in this maintenance complexity.

 

[Navy87guy]

Thanks a lot, I guess both pins are Ok for Legions P229/226? Problem with this punch is not available any place. How is that possible that Sig is not selling it anymore, what are they expecting for people to do if they need to clean their slides or replace simple extractor? I own many different pistols, nothing like Sig in this maintenance complexity.

It's not hard to make your own modified punch -- all you need is a grinder and some patience. Lots of people have made their own by grinding a half-round punch from a standard 3mm. It's a lot cheaper than buying the "special" tool!

 

[MBJKU]

It's not hard to make your own modified punch -- all you need is a grinder and some patience. Lots of people have made their own by grinding a half-round punch from a standard 3mm. It's a lot cheaper than buying the "special" tool!

Yes but doesn't work for me. I would buy one if someone is willing to sell.

 

[powermad]

For whatever reason that half round punch has always been hard to find.
Which is why most resort to making one.

A bench grinder would work but look kinda crude.
I was going to drop off a 3mm punch to the machine shop we use to have it shaved down but haven't got around to it.

 

[Willard]

Sig Sauer never made them, but they bought them when originally made by K & C Barrels, as the E2 Slide Disassembly Tool, and offered the punches in their Armorer's Kits. It was also sold by Brownell's including the same companies P250 Disassembly Tool.

Here is the "original" punch which is a 3mm (.120") punch ground in half, which evidently stopped being made due to medical reasons from "rumors", but Matrix stepped up. to offer their version, made from a 1/8" (.125") Starrett Pin punch.

 

[BravoSeven]

Sig Sauer never made them, but they bought them when originally made by K & C Barrels, as the E2 Slide Disassembly Tool, and offered the punches in their Armorer's Kits. It was also sold by Brownell's including the same companies P250 Disassembly Tool.

Here is the "original" punch which is a 3mm (.120") punch ground in half, which evidently stopped being made due to medical reasons from "rumors", but Matrix stepped up. to offer their version, made from a 1/8" (.125") Starrett Pin punch.
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Medical reasons? Could you expand on that please? Just curious.

 

[Willard]

Medical reasons? Could you expand on that please? Just curious.

No, I cannot.

 

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Medical reasons? Could you expand on that please? Just curious.

Maybe someone smoked too much medical marijuana, and could no longer operate the machinery.

 

[MBJKU]

Sig Sauer never made them, but they bought them when originally made by K & C Barrels, as the E2 Slide Disassembly Tool, and offered the punches in their Armorer's Kits. It was also sold by Brownell's including the same companies P250 Disassembly Tool.

Here is the "original" punch which is a 3mm (.120") punch ground in half, which evidently stopped being made due to medical reasons from "rumors", but Matrix stepped up. to offer their version, made from a 1/8" (.125") Starrett Pin punch.
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Thanks for all this info, i order pins and I got couple of pictures of half-round tool. What about where can I get it? Why It should be so complex with the Sig and so simple with any other pistol makers I know? Within past 6 month I cleaned/replaced extractor springs on Beretta 92's, CZ Shadow 2, HK VP9, Glock's, Walther's etc and I never ask myself what and where should I buy these specific tools to disassemble their slides, just regular punch set is enough. I know it is not your fault, but anyway...

 

[JonasAberg]

^^^^

There is such a tool. It's called a punch.
--one is a special half circle punch.

Yeah, I know. I ordered one but it hasn't arrived yet. The problem with punches is that it's quite easy to scratch the slide or even ruin the pin so some kind of pusher tool would be very useful.

 

[Willard]

It's just removal of the pins where there is a problem. Currently Matrix is our of stock, and no one else makes them, that I'm aware of. What you can do, using care, is try to use a 3/64" short pin punch to start the pin moving, then a longer one to drive it out. Use a 3mm pin punch to drive in the new one. Better yet would be to "turn" a 1/16" pin punch down to .060" diameter or a couple of thousands smaller.

 

[MBJKU]

It's just removal of the pins where there is a problem. Currently Matrix is our of stock, and no one else makes them, that I'm aware of. What you can do, using care, is try to use a 3/64" short pin punch to start the pin moving, then a longer one to drive it out. Use a 3mm pin punch to drive in the new one. Better yet would be to "turn" a 1/16" pin punch down to .060" diameter or a couple of thousands smaller.

I can't see this half round tool even in this expensive toolkit currently for sale by Sig: P Series Pistol Armorers Tool Kit

 

[Willard]

I can't see this half round tool even in this expensive toolkit currently for sale by Sig: P Series Pistol Armorers Tool Kit

That's because he stopped making them a couple of years ago, and when carrying the Sig branding the cost goes up. He was a "One Man" shop from what I understand. I don't know what Sig tells the Armorers going through their course, currently to use, you would to ask a recent graduate. The Matrix version is the only version I've seen lately. Most "gunsmiths" likely make their own, using either a 3mm or 1/8" punch, and I would assume a surface grinder, to take enough off, without overheating it, and changing the hardness of the punch.

 

[SIG Sauer]

I can't see this half round tool even in this expensive toolkit currently for sale by Sig: P Series Pistol Armorers Tool Kit

Was in mine when I bought it 4 years ago? price has doubled
I thought about making some

 

[QBTOO]

Matrix website lets me add the 1/2 round punch to my cart....are you saying they are out of stock or talking about a different product?