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Sig p320 spectra comp

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marathonrunner

Discussion Starter · Jun 5, 2022

I hardly see any posts about the new spectra comp. The gun retails for $1400 would you pay $2099 to $2300 just to be the first owner?

If I do buy this shooting 147gr I don't think I would notice much difference in recoil your thoughts

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tarheel7734

· #2 · Jun 5, 2022

That's quite a bit markup. No I would not pay that much just to be first. I'd wait and get it at msrp or below msrp.

EL2022

· #3 · Jun 5, 2022 (Edited)

You can build your own custom Spectre Comp equivalent for around $1400. The spectre comp is a very nice gun, but not $2100 nice.
The spectre comp is a single port comp which gives you 30-35% recoil reduction. If you build your own you can put a dual port comp (like a PMM, Agency Arms, or Herrington Arms) which gives you 50-55% recoil reduction. You will notice that level of recoil reduction pretty easily.
I can share my build if interested.

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marathonrunner

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 5, 2022

EL2022 said:
You can build your own custom Spectre Comp equivalent for around $1400. The spectre comp is a very nice gun, but not $2100 nice.
The spectre comp is a single port comp which gives you 30-35% recoil reduction. If you build your own you can put a dual port comp (like a PMM, Agency Arms, or Herrington Arms) which gives you 50-55% recoil reduction. You will notice that level of recoil reduction pretty easily.
I can share my build if interested.

One issue I have with making your own is reliability and cycling. I think Sig came out with a compensator that will work with all ammo all across the board where the dual Port May reduce more recoil but at the expense of reliability

I've also been told if I'm shooting 147 grain ammo I probably won't notice much of a difference so it wouldn't be worth the investment

EL2022

· #5 · Jun 5, 2022

marathonrunner said:
One issue I have with making your own is reliability and cycling. I think Sig came out with a compensator that will work with all ammo all across the board where the dual Port May reduce more recoil but at the expense of reliability

I've also been told if I'm shooting 147 grain ammo I probably won't notice much of a difference so it wouldn't be worth the investment

I shoot 147 grain and I notice the difference. I haven't shot a single port comp, so I can't speak to that.
You are correct that you would need to lighten your recoil spring in order for the slide to cycle reliably (and prevent stovepipes) with a dual port comp, something which you often don't need to do with a single port comp. For me it was as simple as getting the DPM recoil spring kit and putting the lightest (shortest) spring in. After breaking it in, I have no issues with 124 and 147 gr. I will be trying out 115 grain soon.
The only reason to do it custom is if you like building things, you like tinkering and you want to save $800-900 over a spectre comp. Your own build will have better recoil reduction if you choose a dual port comp. The reliability issues are 100% because a dual port comp needs a lighter recoil spring and some break in compared to the out-of-the-box solution.
The spectre comp will give you out-of-the-box reliability with no need for spring tuning. The spectre comp also looks really tight with a matching comp and barrel combo and unique laser grip stippling. If the spectre comp was available at its MSRP then it would totally be the way to go. You could also wait a year and see if demand cools off and the price comes down.

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George16

· #6 · Jun 5, 2022

marathonrunner said:
One issue I have with making your own is reliability and cycling. I think Sig came out with a compensator that will work with all ammo all across the board where the dual Port May reduce more recoil but at the expense of reliability

I've also been told if I'm shooting 147 grain ammo I probably won't notice much of a difference so it wouldn't be worth the investment

Tune the gun with recoil spring and you won’t have any cycling problems. The recoil spring weight have to be less from original setup; if you were using 16# without the comp, you can go as low as 10-12# depending on your ammo.

That’s way less than buying Sig’s hodge-lodge of parts thrown together to create what fanboys want to have.

Dholiday666

· #7 · Jun 5, 2022

marathonrunner said:
I hardly see any posts about the new spectra comp. The gun retails for $1400 would you pay $2099 to $2300 just to be the first owner?

If I do buy this shooting 147gr I don't think I would notice much difference in recoil your thoughts

Why not buy directly from Sig ? no markup but straight retail. Call their customer service line and they will help.

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marathonrunner

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jun 6, 2022

Dholiday666 said:
Why not buy directly from Sig ? no markup but straight retail. Call their customer service line and they will help.

Sig does not sell directly to consumers unfortunately

marathonrunner

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jun 6, 2022

EL2022 said:
I shoot 147 grain and I notice the difference. I haven't shot a single port comp, so I can't speak to that.
You are correct that you would need to lighten your recoil spring in order for the slide to cycle reliably (and prevent stovepipes) with a dual port comp, something which you often don't need to do with a single port comp. For me it was as simple as getting the DPM recoil spring kit and putting the lightest (shortest) spring in. After breaking it in, I have no issues with 124 and 147 gr. I will be trying out 115 grain soon.
The only reason to do it custom is if you like building things, you like tinkering and you want to save $800-900 over a spectre comp. Your own build will have better recoil reduction if you choose a dual port comp. The reliability issues are 100% because a dual port comp needs a lighter recoil spring and some break in compared to the out-of-the-box solution.
The spectre comp will give you out-of-the-box reliability with no need for spring tuning. The spectre comp also looks really tight with a matching comp and barrel combo and unique laser grip stippling. If the spectre comp was available at its MSRP then it would totally be the way to go. You could also wait a year and see if demand cools off and the price comes down.

Watched YouTube video and the person shooting the 147 grain did not feel any difference in recoil. My guess this is probably going to work best with the 115 or 124 Hot load. If I spent this much money and this and it wasn't that big of a difference I would have been pretty bummed out

I recently bought an axg Pro and shooting 115 grain out of that is so soft unbelievably soft. But 147 grain was a little snappy not too bad.

Anyway I have three X5 lesions with gray gun triggers competition and they shoot very well

24/7/365

· #10 · Jun 6, 2022

marathonrunner said:
I hardly see any posts about the new spectra comp.

The gun retails for $1400 would you pay $2099 to $2300 just to be the first owner?

If I do buy this shooting 147gr I don't think I would notice much difference in recoil your thoughts

In California, that kind of markup (100-150% +) is standard on so-called "off-roster" pistols...

George16

· #11 · Jun 6, 2022

marathonrunner said:
Watched YouTube video and the person shooting the 147 grain did not feel any difference in recoil. My guess this is probably going to work best with the 115 or 124 Hot load. If I spent this much money and this and it wasn't that big of a difference I would have been pretty bummed out

I recently bought an axg Pro and shooting 115 grain out of that is so soft unbelievably soft. But 147 grain was a little snappy not too bad.

Anyway I have three X5 lesions with gray gun triggers competition and they shoot very well

To maximize the efficiency of the comp, use a slow powder with light bullets like 115. The slow powder will produce more gas to “work” the comp compared to a fast powder. I load 10.4 Gr of AA7 with 124 Gr Precision Delta JHP bullets or 9.7 Gr of AA7 with 124 Gr JHP bullets for my open gun.

Most factory ammo doesn’t produce enough gas to maximize the benefit of having a compensator.

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marathonrunner

Discussion Starter · #12 · Jun 7, 2022

George16 said:
To maximize the efficiency of the comp, use a slow powder with light bullets like 115. The slow powder will produce more gas to “work” the comp compared to a fast powder. I load 10.4 Gr of AA7 with 124 Gr Precision Delta JHP bullets or 9.7 Gr of AA7 with 124 Gr JHP bullets for my open gun.

Most factory ammo doesn’t produce enough gas to maximize the benefit of having a compensator.

I just wish I could find one user who already has this Spectra comp to have shot 147 grain to see if there is any less recoil. If I buy this gun and then realize it's basically just an X5 legion except a tiny bit better I'm going to be very disappointed.

I already said this in this thread but believe it or not the axg pro with 115 grain bullets is very soft shooting.

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flyguyskt

· #13 · Jun 7, 2022

I Will be picking 320 SC up tonight. and paying retail...not sure why anyone would pay over that?? if you are willing to pay 2300$ contact me

asap

I already own the 365XL SC and wanted the big brother. I also have a X5 Legion....So after shooting the 365 side by side with a regular XL I will say it is quite significant... 30% ?? I don't know, but VERY noticeable. I've shot the SC in dim conditions and did not notice any significant muzzle flash increase. noise??? well I cannot tell a difference with my muffs on.

I will take pics and post of the "family" reunited once I get a chance.

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flyguyskt

· #14 · 12 mo ago

well here it is next to the 365xlsc... for those that don't understand the 365xlsc... it fits a spot as an edc

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marathonrunner

Discussion Starter · #15 · 12 mo ago

I just watched a very good YouTube video on camps and as it turns out unless you're shooting plus P or 1:15 124 grain using 147 grain won't benefit that much.

Then when you look at some of these online retailers are trying to get $2,500 I could get two X5 legions and a Glock 43 for the same price almost no way for a 10 to 20% reduction and recoil am I going to waste this much money on something

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flyguyskt

· #16 · 12 mo ago (Edited)

Believe what you want on you tube... I myself, know by shooting same ammo side by side that these comps (365xl) works significantly. One should not discount what One does not KNOW.

24/7/365

· #17 · 12 mo ago

flyguyskt said:
Believe what you want on you tube...

I myself am know by shooting same ammo side by side that these comps (365xl) works significantly.

One should not discount what One does not KNOW.

:iagree:

We (my brother in law, my nephew and I) all shot my P365, My P365XL and my P365 Spectre Comp side by side with range and defense ammo, and all agreed that that there was a noticeable (30%?) reduction in felt recoil.

I have yet to fire the P320 Spectre Comp, so I will reserve comment at this stage...

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Bigjoe7757

· #18 · 12 mo ago

marathonrunner said:
I just watched a very good YouTube video on camps and as it turns out unless you're shooting plus P or 1:15 124 grain using 147 grain won't benefit that much.

Then when you look at some of these online retailers are trying to get $2,500 I could get two X5 legions and a Glock 43 for the same price almost no way for a 10 to 20% reduction and recoil am I going to waste this much money on something

Not true, I have a single port Parker mountain machine Leigon carry build on an full size legion frame and a Herrington arms comp build sig barrel and Zev carry slide sitting on a weighted full size frame and I can totally feel the difference when shooting blazer brass 115 and anything else I shoot. The sig p320 comp build is so much fun and comfortable to shoot.

marathonrunner

Discussion Starter · #19 · 12 mo ago

Bigjoe7757 said:
Not true, I have a single port Parker mountain machine Leigon carry build on an full size legion frame and a Herrington arms comp build sig barrel and Zev carry slide sitting on a weighted full size frame and I can totally feel the difference when shooting blazer brass 115 and anything else I shoot. The sig p320 comp build is so much fun and comfortable to shoot.

That's because 1:15 grain has a shorter bullet which allows more powder the 147 grain bullet is longer and can't put as much powder in the casing. So your argument that 1:15 works great is a true statement but 147 that much difference

marathonrunner

Discussion Starter · #20 · 12 mo ago

24/7/365 said:
We (my brother in law, my nephew and I) all shot my P365, My P365XL and my P365 Spectre Comp side by side with range and defense ammo, and all agreed that that there was a noticeable (30%?) reduction in felt recoil.

I have yet to fire the P320 Spectre Comp, so I will reserve comment at this stage...

The p365 is designed only for 115 grain according to Sig and 115 is a shorter bullet so you could put more powder charge in the casing where 147 is a longer bullet and cannot carry as much powder so 115 grain whether it's self-defense or full metal jacket it's going to have more gas coming out and you'll have lower recoil because of that

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