Thanks for the thorough coverage. I'm about to go to a p320c, so I'm glad to hear there are upgrades on the way. Cheers!
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Thank you for posting this on this forum.
I read it on the other Sig forum some number of days ago.
I suppose that those who read this post all take away something different.
For me, the touch stone moment is the information about the "MIM" parts.
The way I see it, is that we now have confirmed that Sig does not produce their own MIM's, and they spec the quality.
So, apparently when they subject customers to poorly designed and poorly produced parts, (IE: P-938 extractors that continue to break), this is NOT an accident.
It can only be viewed as a conscious decision to save the company a few pennies, and cost the consumer a disabled and untrustworthy pistol.
Actually, this increases my outrage of the way Sig is conducting business.
Sooo, an open note to Sig Sauer.
For goodness sakes guys...give us what we pay for!
It boggles my mind that I can pay nearly 1/2 the amount that Sig charges for its pistols, and buy a Smith and Wesson.
Half the price for a pistol that is trustworthy and durable, as compared to one that costs twice the amount yet does not remain functional for more then a few hundred rounds at a time.
I don't know how much longer you can ride the coat tails of your formerly excellent work, but speaking for myself...the clock is ticking.
One axiom I learned YEARS ago...lose a customer, and you lose him for life.
BTW, if you have a Sig that only works a few hundred rounds at a time, you may want to send it someone who works on them. There are a number of choices. If you are the owner, we repair with the factory warranty.. . .
So, apparently when they subject customers to poorly designed and poorly produced parts, (IE: P-938 extractors that continue to break), this is NOT an accident.
. . . yet does not remain functional for more then a few hundred rounds at a time.
The exemplary reliable, performance provided by the SIGs I own and shoot regularly, strongly contradicts what you have posted.
P220 Super Match: going on 20,000 rounds without a single parts breakage or pistol malfunction.
P220 Carry Equinox: over 11,000 rounds without a single parts breakage or pistol malfunction.
P226 X-Five Competition 9mm: over 8,000 rounds without a single parts breakage or pistol malfunction.
X-Five Classic 9mm: over 7,000 rounds without a single parts breakage or pistol malfunction with the exception that this pistol will not extract Mag tech ammunition reliably, a problem I resolved by simply not shooting Mag tech in this pistol which has been otherwise 100% reliable.
1911 Super Target Nitron, purchased last November so a low round count to this point, but 750 rounds through this pistol without a single parts breakage or malfunction.
I'm a fan of S&W firearms, the majority of my guns are Smith and Wesson, I recommend them to my friends, and I have been buying them for roughly 45 years; but the pistols S&W produces these days, including those from The Performance Center, can't hold a candle to those SIG is currently turning out.
In the friendly spirit of this excellent forum I believe I should end my comments right here at this time.
I am sorry to hear you are having trouble with your P938.All I can say is...count yourself LUCKY.
I too have owned a number of Sigs for MANY years.
All had been trouble free.
Based on this positive experience, I bought a P-938 Blackwood.
The FIRST extractor lasted 300 rounds! before it broke.
The SECOND was made TWICE AS GOOD...it lasted approx. 600 rounds.
Now I am getting the dreaded mainspring housing peening.
At this rate, I don't have to clean it.
I just shoot it until it breaks, then I can clean it while it's apart replacing parts.
In short....A DISGRACE!