If you are a new shooter low left is the most common error and often means you are anticipating the recoil. Randomly mix in some snap caps and you'll see it clear as day if you are anticipating recoil.
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Was at the range yesterday and my p365 was shooting low left , I was using 124 grain 9mm , I also tried the same ammo in my 92x performance . I’m open to constructive criticism, just want to make sure I’m hitting center mass as the p365 is my edc
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And are you shooting low left with the 92x? Have someone else shoot the P365 with the same ammo. Or shoot off a rest.Was at the range yesterday and my p365 was shooting low left , I was using 124 grain 9mm , I also tried the same ammo in my 92x performance . I’m open to constructive criticism, just want to make sure I’m hitting center mass as the p365 is my edc
Thank you so much , I figured I might be flinching a bit , guess it affects accuracy more on a smaller pistol than on full sizeIf you are a new shooter low left is the most common error and often means you are anticipating the recoil. Randomly mix in some snap caps and you'll see it clear as day if you are anticipating recoil.
Just to ask, are you shooting the dot directly over the target covering it up? SIG uses "combat" sights on the 365 and if targeting with a bullseye resting on the front blade it shoots low.
Caught me out discovering it - older pistols shoot bull on blade, which is the previous standard. "Combat" seems to have come into more widespread use lately, SIG does offer different height sights for adjustment. Or, just raise it up and cover the target. At most defensive ranges it's choose which button.
Caught me out discovering it - older pistols shoot bull on blade, which is the previous standard. "Combat" seems to have come into more widespread use lately, SIG does offer different height sights for adjustment. Or, just raise it up and cover the target. At most defensive ranges it's choose which button.
As above, this is very common. You are right handed, yes?
Some things to try that have worked for me: More support hand grip. As in, more than you are doing now.
Dry Practice, specifically the Wall Drill, and Dime Balance: Wall Drill: With an unloaded gun, reset the striker, raise up to a blank wall, about 1" away, focus on the front sight. Press, watching the front sight for movement (should be none). Dime Balance: Place a dime across the front sight, flat. Raise up the unloaded pistol, and press the trigger. The dime should not fall. Do this 10 times in a row.
One round drills. This is live. Load one round in a mag. Chamber it, and remove the mag. Get a sight picture and fire one round. The slide will not lock back. Get a second sight picture, and press off a good dry press. Make sure the sight does not move. You may have to do this 3 or 4 times but if you have a pre-ignition push down, it will tend to show up.
Lastly, not sure if this applies, if not no problem: Sig sights are "shoot the dot" hold, not a top of sight hold. So make sure that you are putting the center of the front sight on the center of the target.
If your gun is optic ready, another thing you can do mount an optic. This may sound weird, but a pistol mini-red dot sight can help enormously in diagnosing trigger press issues in dry practice. You raise the pistol up and get a sight picture on the dot. Then press as normal. Observing the dot, dry, you can tell immediately if the dot moves.
Some things to try that have worked for me: More support hand grip. As in, more than you are doing now.
Dry Practice, specifically the Wall Drill, and Dime Balance: Wall Drill: With an unloaded gun, reset the striker, raise up to a blank wall, about 1" away, focus on the front sight. Press, watching the front sight for movement (should be none). Dime Balance: Place a dime across the front sight, flat. Raise up the unloaded pistol, and press the trigger. The dime should not fall. Do this 10 times in a row.
One round drills. This is live. Load one round in a mag. Chamber it, and remove the mag. Get a sight picture and fire one round. The slide will not lock back. Get a second sight picture, and press off a good dry press. Make sure the sight does not move. You may have to do this 3 or 4 times but if you have a pre-ignition push down, it will tend to show up.
Lastly, not sure if this applies, if not no problem: Sig sights are "shoot the dot" hold, not a top of sight hold. So make sure that you are putting the center of the front sight on the center of the target.
If your gun is optic ready, another thing you can do mount an optic. This may sound weird, but a pistol mini-red dot sight can help enormously in diagnosing trigger press issues in dry practice. You raise the pistol up and get a sight picture on the dot. Then press as normal. Observing the dot, dry, you can tell immediately if the dot moves.
Watch yr finger ..
TRIGGER DIRECTION
Shooting low and to the left is trigger direction. The trigger needs to travel straight back to the rear for a clean shot on your target. If you have too many fingers on the trigger or not enough fingers on the trigger, your firearm may move in undesired directions as you press your trigger. If this is your issue, you should feel bad about it…just kidding!
TRIGGER DIRECTION
Shooting low and to the left is trigger direction. The trigger needs to travel straight back to the rear for a clean shot on your target. If you have too many fingers on the trigger or not enough fingers on the trigger, your firearm may move in undesired directions as you press your trigger. If this is your issue, you should feel bad about it…just kidding!
Hitting low left is incorrect trigger pull position on a right-hand dominant shooter. Do your best to find the square of your trigger finger to the gun.
Flinching is shooting low center. Or low everywhere if you can't control subsequent recoil after the first shot on a continuous fire.
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There are other pics or illustrations out there but this gives you an idea of what to look for.
Flinching is shooting low center. Or low everywhere if you can't control subsequent recoil after the first shot on a continuous fire.
There are other pics or illustrations out there but this gives you an idea of what to look for.
other way to manage this is put 500-1000 rds through it in a day but the snap cap method sounds interesting.Thank you so much , I figured I might be flinching a bit , guess it affects accuracy more on a smaller pistol than on full size
tons of good grip/ trigger mgmt videos on the webs. Sig puts out a nice series..
also, if nobody hain't said it- try a dryfire laser trainer. would be an easier, cheaper fix than 1000 bu-lets.
People are trying to offer you a single reason for what's going on but the truth is more likely that it's a number of things.
It's no one specific fundamental that makes for a good shot. It's the application of them all together.
Technically, as long as your sights are on target and you can pull the trigger straight back the bullet's going to land where you're pointing. HOWEVER. If you don't have a solid grip and stiff wrists on something as tiny as the P365 chambered in 9mm the felt recoil is going to be massive and it would be very easy to develop a case of recoil anticipation.
A number of things could be going wrong. You could be relaxing your wrists or grip as you pull the trigger. You could be yanking the trigger too hard rather than using just enough pressure to get it moving. You could be looking for hits rather than watching your front sight. Trigger control and trigger finger placement is something too and different between sizes and shapes of both hands and guns, but, for me personally it's the easy part to figure out. I could hit anything I wanted with a laser cartridge but once live ammo came into play it was everything else going wrong.
What really helped me gain some control of the P365 platform and handguns in general was developing a dry fire routine that made me focus on every aspect of a good shot OTHER than just simply pulling the trigger.
I'd lean into a desk with my muzzle resting on it with the goal of keeping my wrists straight just to wake up my awareness of my wrists. I'd present the weapon with stiff wrists, a solid grip and a good sight picture. I'd hold that for about 10 seconds. I'd hold it while I got my good trigger press, and then I'd hold everything for a good 5-10 seconds after that.
Doing that 10-20 times a day for about a month is personally where I learned how to handle a handgun. .
It's no one specific fundamental that makes for a good shot. It's the application of them all together.
Technically, as long as your sights are on target and you can pull the trigger straight back the bullet's going to land where you're pointing. HOWEVER. If you don't have a solid grip and stiff wrists on something as tiny as the P365 chambered in 9mm the felt recoil is going to be massive and it would be very easy to develop a case of recoil anticipation.
A number of things could be going wrong. You could be relaxing your wrists or grip as you pull the trigger. You could be yanking the trigger too hard rather than using just enough pressure to get it moving. You could be looking for hits rather than watching your front sight. Trigger control and trigger finger placement is something too and different between sizes and shapes of both hands and guns, but, for me personally it's the easy part to figure out. I could hit anything I wanted with a laser cartridge but once live ammo came into play it was everything else going wrong.
What really helped me gain some control of the P365 platform and handguns in general was developing a dry fire routine that made me focus on every aspect of a good shot OTHER than just simply pulling the trigger.
I'd lean into a desk with my muzzle resting on it with the goal of keeping my wrists straight just to wake up my awareness of my wrists. I'd present the weapon with stiff wrists, a solid grip and a good sight picture. I'd hold that for about 10 seconds. I'd hold it while I got my good trigger press, and then I'd hold everything for a good 5-10 seconds after that.
Doing that 10-20 times a day for about a month is personally where I learned how to handle a handgun. .
I see this type of target at my range a lot. More or less accurate. As others have said,
your finger position, and grip stability are important. Make sure your grip is firm
and don't "squeeze" your hand or fingers when pulling the trigger. A firm confident
grip also helps mitigate recoil anticipation.
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your finger position, and grip stability are important. Make sure your grip is firm
and don't "squeeze" your hand or fingers when pulling the trigger. A firm confident
grip also helps mitigate recoil anticipation.
most ranges will have a range officer that is more than happy to help with shooting tips. ask for one at your next range visit.
No I’m pretty straight on wit the 92x performance, maybe it’s a lot heavier which is why it’s not shooting left ?ill try the rest and letting the RSO give it a try thank youAnd are you shooting low left with the 92x? Have someone else shoot the P365 with the same ammo. Or shoot off a rest.
I tried using covering the bullseye up with the center dot , then I tried to move it higher up and right which didn’t help muchJust to ask, are you shooting the dot directly over the target covering it up? SIG uses "combat" sights on the 365 and if targeting with a bullseye resting on the front blade it shoots low.
Caught me out discovering it - older pistols shoot bull on blade, which is the previous standard. "Combat" seems to have come into more widespread use lately, SIG does offer different height sights for adjustment. Or, just raise it up and cover the target. At most defensive ranges it's choose which button.
You're dealing with a completely different action type comparing the P365 to a 92x.No I’m pretty straight on wit the 92x performance, maybe it’s a lot heavier which is why it’s not shooting left ?ill try the rest and letting the RSO give it a try thank you
A striker fired trigger has stages. The first shot consists of the pre-travel, whcih imo isn't really part of the trigger pull.. it's intention is disabling an internal safety. Using minimal pressure you hit the wall. This is where the seer begins to move and imo the start of the trigger pull. From there build up pressure and pull it straight back smoothly. The shot breaks.. The slide cycles and the disconnector resets the seer. you then let the trigger spring push the trigger and your finger until it "clicks" and then stop it. Don't take your finger completely off the trigger. This is called the reset and puts you right back at "the wall" for the followup shot.
By the time my gun is out in front of me and as I'm lining up my sights on a target I'm committed to shooting I have already taken up the slack of the trigger up to the wall before starting my trigger pull. A DA or SA trigger pull starts from the moment you move the trigger. So remember.. I'm describing a striker fired trigger pull and only a striker fired trigger pull.
Your 92x is imo just going to be plain easier to shoot period. It's bigger. It's heavier. It's got more surface area to get your hands on. Once you fire the first shot you have a single action pull that if it's anything like a 1911, has a very short stroke and little room for error. The P365 being as small as it is will punish you more for any flaw and has a trigger pull length with more time for things to go wrong if you let them.
If you are shooting fine with the 92x and not with the 365, it may be due to the grip size. You probably have an easy time keeping the grip for the 92 oriented in your hand and thus your trigger pull is pretty linear. With a smaller grip it is easier tograb the gun with your grip rotated clockwise or counterclockwise around the grip, and you can wind up pulling the trigger to one side or the other making the same motion that would result in a fairly straight pull on a bigger gun.No I’m pretty straight on wit the 92x performance, maybe it’s a lot heavier which is why it’s not shooting left ?ill try the rest and letting the RSO give it a try thank you
Good advice. It took me a while to figure that out whan I got my first sig (a p229). I was raised placing the pumpkin on the post, but when I caught on I was amazed with the 229's accurcy. My son and I are about to give his new P365 a spin and I had plum forgotten about the proper use of combat sights. I can't wait to see how well it shoots, though the little gun's merit isn't so much accuracy as ease of concealment.Just to ask, are you shooting the dot directly over the target covering it up? SIG uses "combat" sights on the 365 and if targeting with a bullseye resting on the front blade it shoots low.
Caught me out discovering it - older pistols shoot bull on blade, which is the previous standard. "Combat" seems to have come into more widespread use lately, SIG does offer different height sights for adjustment. Or, just raise it up and cover the target. At most defensive ranges it's choose which button.
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