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Hi DFischer,Depends on how you carry. I will not use a safety on any handgun (too much time shooting glocks), nor will I take a chance on an AD. For me unchambered is a must. I also want to hit what I aim at, and I'm don't like the heavy and long striker fire pull that you really should have if you're carrying a chambered.CCW handgun. (No, I don't do such things in my fullsize Glocks, so I'm not contradicting myself. But if I was CCW a Glock I sure would!)
But I'm not LEO, and I won't be confronting anybody on purpose. Those guys carry chambered and non-concealed for a good reason! I do not, and if I pull it'll be to stop mass murder. I'll have the half second it takes to rack (I practice that way), and I'll want it to be certain I have no choice but to send that round.
So for me, I wanted quality from the work go. I looked hard at Kahr, and it was close. But I wanted a hammer (I carry cocked and locked) and the better shot results I get from a good trigger. Since I know of no striker fire that fills that bill...
If what I've suggested flows for you, I think you're looking at Kimber Micro vs Sig P938. If you insist on carrying chambered, then put the safety on, stay away from me,and add the Kahrs back in. Good little gun for that use.![]()
Best of luck.
I typed before engaging brain. Cocked, NOT locked. I don't use a safety. and I won't chamber. I'd not considered "Cocked and Locked" implied "chambered", but I'd not disagree with your statement. And again, I don't lock anyway. Typing ahead of my brain.Hi DFischer,
Trying to understand your post a bit better. You don't carry with a round chambered but said you want a hammer fired because you carry cocked and locked. Cocked and locked is condition 1 for military meaning round in the chamber, hammer cocked, full mag in the well, and safety on. Is that what you meant? Also said if you pull it would be to stop a mass murder. I don't consider that an unrealistic possibility in this world and it just seems more likely that you would be confronted while broken down or with a flat on the road with family in the car, perhaps be in a store during a robbery attempt, or maybe just walking from your car in the driveway to your house late at night. Everyone carries for different reasons like cash drops for a business, hiking in remote areas, job that takes you into shady neighborhoods etc.... I do have a finicky 938 presently so thanks for the info on alternative pieces too.
DFischer,I typed before engaging brain. Cocked, NOT locked. I don't use a safety. and I won't chamber. I'd not considered "Cocked and Locked" implied "chambered", but I'd not disagree with your statement. And again, I don't lock anyway. Typing ahead of my brain.Hi DFischer,
Trying to understand your post a bit better. You don't carry with a round chambered but said you want a hammer fired because you carry cocked and locked. Cocked and locked is condition 1 for military meaning round in the chamber, hammer cocked, full mag in the well, and safety on. Is that what you meant? Also said if you pull it would be to stop a mass murder. I don't consider that an unrealistic possibility in this world and it just seems more likely that you would be confronted while broken down or with a flat on the road with family in the car, perhaps be in a store during a robbery attempt, or maybe just walking from your car in the driveway to your house late at night. Everyone carries for different reasons like cash drops for a business, hiking in remote areas, job that takes you into shady neighborhoods etc.... I do have a finicky 938 presently so thanks for the info on alternative pieces too.
Let me clean it up this way:
I don't/won't carry a handgun chambered. For my Sigs I carry hammer back (reduces slide pull weight considerably) and safety off, and do so pocket carry. If I do IWB then I both want to avoid skin oils and want more sight radius, so I carry my Shield. My Glocks are used external carry or in cars, or whatever is appropriate when I'm in deep woods at night and etc. And usually that's the G20.
For me this means the same root training for all my handguns. Same reason I'm working more on "point of aim". I want my training to be as universal to my weapons as possible.
Yep, I've been broken down in bad places at night changing a flat tire. Once in an entirely poor area. Police response was reported to be at roughly an hour for a non-emergency (for that area). But I had a passenger holding the G20 with the red-dot already on. Had I been alone I'd have probably destroyed the rim first.
I thought very long and hard before I went from "hobby shooter" to CCW. For me it was a very emotional and mentally trying decision. I suppose I had to come to grips with moving from "fun" to "I might have to kill another man". I've known some that didn't have my emotional tug of war, and it makes me nervous. We're talking about human life. Ah well. Me and my soap box.
Oddly, I've changed how I behave while driving, and how I handle risk situations, in that I avoid them all more carefully now.
Funnily enough my wife, who hates guns, needed a bio break on the interstate late one night in the middle of nowhere. I pulled into a rest area and her first words were "you've got your gun, right?". Sure, and in that case I suppose I could have chambered. But I shoot lots, and I practice racking a lot. There is no question I lose some time, and I find I'm also not on target as quickly either. But heck, I can't pocket draw quickly at all, and the ranges here won't let me practice that way, so if I'm in a speed is paramount situation, well, that's bad. In her case it was "hands in pocket on gun, in a corner where I can hear her and nobody can be behind me".
Hope I was at least a bit more clear.![]()
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Don't I know it...but it didn't involve a pistol...:lol:On reliability alone, I would choose the Kahr. I also prefer its trigger mechanism to the 938s. I'm not a big fan of either system, but would prefer the Kahr's to the P938 for safety reasons alone. I do not like the idea of putting a SA pistol in my pocket. While I think they're completely safe on the hip, the pocket is another matter altogether different. Strange things happen in pockets that never take place on a belt.
Agree!Carrying a weapon with nothing in the chamber just seems nuts to me and especially on a DAO gun.![]()