P320 “goes off” again on its own

12131 said:

Btw, did y'all ever notice that all these P320 lawsuits come from LE and military people? Proves once and for all that just because you're in LE or military, you're no better than the average gun owning Joe Citizen. Even worse many a time.

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In fact, the worst fiearms handling I've ever seen was by uniformed military.

From the day I stepped onto the tarmac in Iraq, I was met by a level of unsafe handling I've never even seen among civilians. There was an E-5 sitting on a knocked over cement column, using his rifle butt as a headrest, as he ground his muzzle into the gravel and fine powder sand.

On Victory, soldiers were not allowed to have mags in the magwells. To minimize cleaning, they stuffed newspaper into the magwell to keep the dust out. Why would they need their rifle in a hurry, it's not like they were in a war zone...oh, wait.

I saw a West Point Major - a field grade officer - present his M9, point it right at a contractor with his finger on the trigger as a "joke."

Just a few months later, I saw a USAF O-2 work behind an Army CW-4 (warrant), grab the warrant by the neck, seize the warrant's M9 and put the muzzle to the base of the skull of the warrant -- he wanted to demonstrate the new holster the warrant bought didn't have adequate retention. They had been debating it for ~30 minutes before the conversation drifted to something else, and the O-2 made his move.

I think service members in combat arms are probably very different, but the vast majority of the military are not in combat arms. When a retired two star or a cashiered four star go on national TV to talk about how 9mm and 223 Rem are "far too dangerous to be trusted in the hands of civilians," their point of view is biased by the sorts of incidents I described - some ending fatally. We're not supposed to point out the incidents are a result of poor training, slack discipline, and immaturity on the part of those involved. They also don't care civilians overall, and especially those with permits to carry, have a better safety record or that the rate of negligent firearms related injuries has declined dramatically since 1980 even as gun ownership increased.