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New to guns; have a budget, need advice for home defense.

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Hope all you guys are doing well!

In short, my wife and I bought our first home not long ago and we decided that for Christmas this year we would buy ourselves a gun. So that's the background story.

We would like to keep it under $600, and she requests that it has a laser sight. My only requirement is a second clip, so that my chances are doubled if I ever need to use the gun.

Neither of us were raised around guns, so upon purchasing we intend on going to shooting ranges and sitting through some training courses to become more familiar (and safer) with the equipment. A friend of mine recommended a Sig 320, but that is pretty much Greek to me, so I come to you guys with the question:

For home defense, for about $600 bucks (the laser sight can come later, but needs to be a gun that is compatible with it), what would you guys recommend? And new or used guns?


Sorry for sounding like such a newbie, but that's what I am, haha. Thank you for the attention!
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where you do the training will hopefully have some firearms for rent & if you settle on one that will be amenable to you both.

most that are new will come with 2 magazines.

welcome from az.
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Welcome!
And congrats to you and your wife on your first home!!

You need to consider what will fit her hand well enough that she can control the recoil.
Some women can handle a full-size .45ACP but most are better with a 9mm, IMHO.

A P320 Compact 9mm would be an excellent choice for anyone. That is what my petite wife has.
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Take a look at the P320, but also look at the SP2022. You should find a range nearby that rents guns and both of you should fire the pistols you are considering.
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Welcome to the forum and congratulations on the first home. The Sig P320 has the light rail attachment for future laser upgrade and the frames come in different grip sizes. It is a nice firearm (I have the subcompact, compact and full sized units in 9mm) and I find it easy to shoot.
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By FAR the most important advice you are getting is to go first to a range and shoot some guns. There are (usually) gun shops that have a combo range and some of them will rent or loan you guns to shoot. And a lot of times folks at ranges (who are generally among the nicest ever) will let you shoot what they have, if you ask nicely. But for anyone who has never owned a pistol before, you absolutely have to shoot and hold as many as you can before you make a purchase.

Think of it as a car purchase -- you wouldn't buy your first car (or any car, for that matter) without a test drive. And you need to learn to drive before you would consider using a car. All that is doubly true for a weapon, particularly one that both you and your wife will be using to save your lives. During the time it is needed is NOT the time to find out you will drop it at the first firing.

If your wife has never fired anything, then I would by all means have her start with a .22 which has such minimum recoil (hint: none) that she could gain confidence before moving up in caliber. .380 would be next, but if she's comfortable enough with the concept you can skip to 9mm, which for a first-timer would be all that I would recommend.

And it's vitally important she (and you, for that matter) feel comfortable "working" the gun. Understanding the mechanics, etc. This is all something that can be learned in classes, and nearly any gunshop will either offer or know of them. NRA sponsored ones are particularly good.

After that you have SO many good choices you may get bewildered, but Sig makes the finest quality firearms in the world and anything from their line is worth considering. But, again, you need to walk before you can run, so take those baby steps and do it right and someday you'll be advising others of how to start.
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Oh, and don't worry about the laser -- there isn't, AFAIK, any pistol (even a revolver) that can't be fitted with some sort of laser nowadays (I have them on all my weapons, even including a snub nosed revolver). Again, the important thing is to checkmark ALL the boxes and do it right.
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Another thought on the laser and home defense. If you ever have to use your pistol in a home defense situation, the odds are pretty high that it will be at close enough quarters that point and shoot will do the job.
Go to the range and learn how to shoot first. Having a gun proficient friend is a huge plus.

I know your budget is $600 but I'd recommend a $800 budget for a brand new Sig P229 in 9mm. It comes with 2 magazines. You don't need a laser really. Light (or flashlight) is more useful. $800 seems like a lot for one purchase but if you really think about it, it's not much because it will last you years, i.e. 20 year or more life span is expected. You'll spend more money on range trips and ammo anyway.

If you really want to stick with $600, I'd recommend a Sig P2022, a used Sig P229 (excellent condition), or other brands like CZ P-01 or CZ SP-01 Tactical.
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I assume you are talking about a handgun? For home defense some might consider a 12 or 20 gauge shotgun which can certainly be had within your budget.

If you are talking about a handgun, your first decision needs to be revolver or pistol. Since you spoke of a second "clip" (magazine) it sounds like you are thinking pistol, but I would not totally discount the idea of a revolver, especially if both you and your wife are new to handguns.

If it is to be a pistol, you must next consider the trigger action and whether to have a safety, decocker, or both. Pistols come in a lot of different flavors. One distinction is striker-fired versus hammer fired. Striker-fired pistols like Glocks and the SIG P320 have no external hammer. Among hammer-fired pistols, there are basically three different trigger mechanisms: single action, double action only, and traditional double action i.e, double action/single action or DA/SA. Nearly all single action pistols come with an external safety. Double action only (DAO) pistols, like revolvers, usually have no external safety. Traditional double action pistols might have a safety, a decocker, or a safety/decocker.

Striker-fired pistols most often have no external safety although some do. Most all striker-fired pistols have one consistent trigger action, like a single action pistol does. Many striker-fired pistols call themselves DAO but their trigger pull is really not much like that of a double action only hammer-fired pistol or a double action revolver, it is much longer and typically lighter. There are rare striker-fired pistols with a DA/SA trigger action. An example is the Walther P99.

When it comes to revolver vs pistol, hammer-fired vs striker-fired, and DAO vs striker-action, vs single action, vs DA/SA there is no right answer. You will find very strong proponents of each, and each has its potential advantages and disadvantages. You will also find the no safety, vs safety, vs decocker issue warmly debated.

I realize that if you are new to handguns, a lot of these terms might make no sense. But you can learn quite a bit with a few internet searches. Just be aware that you will encounter strong opinions that a certain type of action is best and take those with a grain of salt, because you will find just as many opinions in the opposite direction. But you really can't base a decision based on internet research alone. You need to try to get some on-hands exposure to these different types and decide what suits you best.

It is really only after you make these fundamental decisions that recommendations for a specific gun will have any value to you.
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Forget internet advice on what to purchase and "what's best". "Buy what I like" doesn't work.

Contact a local firearms instructor.
Take a firearm/personal protection course.
A competent instructor will have several guns to show/let you shoot in their classes.
Get to a gun shop with a good reputation in your area and try to fit the grips to your hands.
Learn how the weight/balance feels to you.
Shoot different guns to see what you/your wife feel you can handle.

Chose wisely - you life may depend on that choice.
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First Welcome.

There are a lot of good suggestions here. But I'd like to mention when you review your choices, consider you and your wife physical conditions.

By wife has small hands, (and were on the older side) plus she was in an accident years ago and this contributed to her choice. She has a hard time racking the slide to load the weapon or just leaving it open for safety at the range. She can shoot the 9 mm and for a bit, my .40 S&W, but for handling, she selected the .380. Any prior medical conditions or physical limitations should be highly consider when selecting the proper weapon.

As mentioned, review, select several, test shoot, review, test shoot ... then buy.
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Welcome! You've definitely come to the right place! I wish I came here before making my first purchase.

First, I would visit this site, The Handgun Information Resource, it gives details as far as defense factor, recoil, etc. and is a great site to do some research with. Then, as mentioned, I would try to find a range that will allow you to rent the choices you have selected so you can make a informed and practical decision. I would also recommend you and your wife take a conceal carry class so you can ideally learn the laws and implications in your state, preferably taught by someone in LE or a strong LE background.

Best of luck, and again, Welcome!
Thank you all! I will do my best to eventually reply to everyone, but the gist of the idea so far is:

1. Go test driving a gun with my wife
2. Mostly all guns will work with a laser
3. Perhaps a flashlight will be better than a laser
4. Everyone, including us, in in agreement that the goal is to learn how to FULLY operate the gun before bringing it into our home. We expect to never have to shoot it other than at targets, so believe me that this is an equally important item to us.
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Sounds like you've got a plan (and a man with a plan...)

And remember it's all a process. I know the temptation is to think of it as "getting there" but the journey is as good as the destination. Every single part of the trip is so eye opening and interesting that I think you and your wife will have fun if you approach it in that light. Enjoying something and not thinking of it as "work" will go a long way towards making sure you do it right.

My own DW shoots better than I do, with ALL our weapons, even if she's kind of "meh" about it. But at least I have the confidence to know she can defend herself, both inside and outside the home (and, yes, along your journey you may decide that carrying a weapon is also something you want to consider. But, one step at a time).

Good luck and keep us posted!
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most that are new will come with 2 magazines.

^^^^^who didn't see that coming!!!! lol^^^^
As much as I love my SIG's.. once it comes to purchase, take a long hard look at the VP9... interchangeable grip panels really helps
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Are you set on a handgun? If you don't intend to carry it most would recommend a pump action shotgun as a primary home defense system. A 20 gauge or 12 gauge with reduced recoil loads would be totally manageable for your wife. Much more effective than a handgun. There's an old adage "a handgun is only for fighting your way back to your long gun". A good Mossberg 500/590 or Remington 870 are top quality and can be had for $300-$500. Add another $75-150 for a good mounted light and you've got the best home defense weapon you can get. Also the option of many different types of ammunition.


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Like everything else that has to do with firearms, rail-mounted lights are hotly debated with some favoring them and others condemning them in favor of hand-held lights.

For myself, for a home-defense handgun I favor a rail-mounted laser-light combo and I use a Streamlight TLR-2. The laser allows one to aim in situations in which one simply cannot obtain a proper sight picture such as when shooting around a corner. The laser also allows the gun to be aimed from a lower position in which the shooter's hands and pistol do not obscure vision of the target.

The laser-light combos can be used as laser sights alone, a weapon-mounted tactical light alone, or both.

Many favor the use of a separate hand-held light but that assumes you will have the full use of both hands, one for the pistol and one for the light, and that is not a given.

If you are interested in either a rail-mounted weapon-mounted light, or a rail-mounted laser, make sure you look at pistols with rails.
Welcome and congrats! I would recommend attending a basic gun class before purchasing a gun. A lot of instructors have a number of guns available for students to access and fondle so that you can get a good idea of what you like, what fits you best. Today the striker fire is probably the best type gun for new shooters, IMO. They are easy to use and maintain, and there are a plethora available.

I recommend the Glock 19 Gen 4 for a first gun. It is the perfect size gun for a general purpose firearm, great for home defense and everyday carry. It comes in well under your budget, it is light, reliable, accurate and safe, and they are the most prevalent gun on the market which means there is outstanding support for the gun if/when something goes wrong. It is one of the most popular guns in the world for a reason.

If you're not going to carry a gun and train with the gun then I really would recommend a shotgun. A perfect platform for both men and women is the Remington 870 youth model 20 gauge. It has twice the power of a .44 magnum, and it is a compact gun that will be easy for the lady to manipulate.

Attending a basic gun course would be a great first step to helping you make a decision as to what type gun is best for you. Then, once you get past that and decide on a gun, you would do well to find and attend a basic home/personal defense course. Just exposes you to situations and scenarios most people never think about. I highly recommend that! Make a list of your questions so that you won't forget them when you get to class. Write them down and pay attention b/c some may be answered during the course of the class, and those that aren't you can ask.

Good luck!
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