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Mixed Platforms P365 and P229

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I have always heard that it is best to stay with one platform and up until now it's been a P229 DA/SA in 9mm. Still, the little P365 impresses me so much is it such a bad idea to rely on both the DA/SA 229 and the striker fired 365. This P365 has a manual safety, which I think important on a stiker gun. While the p229 has no safety, I carry it hammer down on DA. The longer first shot DA trigger pull sort of acts as a safety.
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You’ll get every opinion under the sun. I’ll carry P365 with MS, P229 and P320’s without MS. No concerns here.
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That is basically my carry package. If I need good concealment, I carry the P365X with no safety. Otherwise, I carry the P229 DA/SA. It all comes down to training.
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I think it's entirely possible to be competent on more than one platform.
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...is it such a bad idea to rely on both the DA/SA 229 and the striker fired 365.
It's only a bad idea for the uninformed and untrained.
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80% time carry 229 40SW, rest of the time 365 w/o safety. No issues expected as I practice significantly with both and carry each in very different situations…..with or without a belt.
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Keep in that if you use it defensively you will PROBABLY be shooting at close range, possibly point blank. Be aware of where you carry it ie iwb at 5 o’clock or AIWB. Your target is “center mass” which is around 1 ft. by 2 ft. and not a 2” bullseye. I personally prefer either both have a MS or neither one. Remember you can do anything as long as you train that way.
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We can discuss training till we are blue in the face, and yes, some small few probably do enough training to be competent on multiple platforms.

However, consider this. It is the multitude of things that can go wrong in a situation that has already gone sideways.

Now, that said I think we all go through seasons where we like one type over the other and can train enough to be competent. Meaning that for that period, which constitutes more than a day or a week, we can stick to and train through enough to be good with a given platform.

The problem with the whole “rotational” idea is that if it is frequent you are multiplying what could go wrong. And I am not just talking about making the mistake of taking the safety off a MS gun before pulling the trigger. There is the case of putting it back on before holstering, decocking a DA/SA before holstering, having your thumb ride the slide lock on a DA/SA because you are used to it riding a manual safety…..and on and on and on.

I have three guns I cary in seasons. I have a 1911 and a P320 with Manual Safety. I am competent when switching between because they are both the same MOA effectively. I tend to carry these most of the time.

I go through seasons where I will only carry my SIG P227 SAS da/sa. Again, I do so long enough and train with it enough during that season to be competent.

On both systems I am more and more concerned with remembering to put the safety back on or decocking before holstering after a high stress situation.

More and more, I think a striker or DAO type system with a, maybe 5-6 lb pull is the better of them all. Enough to provide a good trigger, but not so light as to provide a trigger that might hang up easily if one has properly trained holstering as much as drawing.

Just my two cents on the topic and probably not as well informed as it should be.
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All my handguns are striker fired, including the one chambered in .22lr. All of them have a manual safety other than my Glock 19.

Because they're striker fired, if I'm wearing a holster on a the belt, which I typically use kydex, I have made a habit of disengaging my manual safety once secure in my holster. The trigger guard is the safety at that point and my drawstroke remains similar to my G19.

I keep the safety on if the P365 is in one of my pocket holsters, but they do a pretty good job of protecting the trigger guard.

In regards to training.. the P365 was a little small for my experience level at the start. I spent the last year learning how to handle it and it took quite a few range trips for the light bulbs to start clicking on..but afterwards.. picking up a larger gun like a 1911 or my Glock 19 just feels stupidly easy to handle. I can establish a 2 hand grip faster because there's so much more room for my support hand to land.

That being said.. I still carry a standard P365 with a flush 10 round mag. I have a P365XL as well.. it's become what I train with. They're largely the same gun and at least in my hands handle the same. I practice with a dot, but I'm still faster with irons. If I'm being honest, I think the practice I've put into the small window of the 507k has me presenting a gun with iron sights faster as well.

I have several 9mms and the P365 was having its way with me because of how tiny it is and because even though I'd paid for instruction and spent countless hours reading and watching what I could I was missing some key things. It really made me wrap my head around the fundamentals of shooting a pistol. I'm not saying I'd do great in a competition or something but I've come a long way with my ability to shoot a handgun since buying my P365. It taught me things that also apply to just about any semi-auto handgun I'd pickup.
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There are 3 guns I regularly carry, CZ 75B, CZ 75B compact and CZ 2075 (Rami). All have been "Cajunized" and all have just about identical controls. I shoot all 3 well
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I think it's entirely possible to be competent on more than one platform.
This. And I make it a point to do so.
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Carry both, train with both regularly and feel comfortable with both. No safety on the 365 or 365XL. Upper Hand kydex OWB for the larger sidearms and Muddy River IWB for 365 SAS. Works for me, your results may vary 😉
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Carry both, train with both regularly and feel comfortable with both. No safety on the 365 or 365XL. Upper Hand kydex OWB for the larger sidearms and Muddy River IWB for 365 SAS. Works for me, your results may vary 😉
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