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M17 slide not returning to battery

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Hi ,
forgive me if this has been asked.. I searched and did not find a satisfactory answer here yet or the range where I shoot and purchased.
Bought a P320 M17 yesterday...
Today first time out .. The rounds fired.. predominantly slide stayed behind refused to go to battery (Im new to all of it) so sorry if I have some terminology wrong.. Im learning..
1st) I was told it was my weak grip..2nd) it was new .. needed more rounds.. ??
Now when the big guy shot it.. the pistol behaved.. lol..
I watched Hickok 45 complain about the very thing.. he's very well versed in many guns.. and stands 6'8.. so I don't thing he has a weak grip.. any thoughts.. I wanted to love this gun.. fired m17 rental numerous days at the range..I also bought the P365x.. thanks
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Couple things. Did you lube the gun before shooting it the first time? Most guns don’t come from the factory ready to shoot. I’m not saying you can’t shoot it directly out of the box, but you’re more likely to get better performance if you clean all the oil from the factory out and replace it with a quality gun lubricant. The stuff that’s on there from the factory is typically a rust preventative, and not a lubricant.

Limp wrist is a thing. If you don’t have a good proper grip while shooting, you can possibly cause a malfunction. One easy way to see if it’s you or the gun is to have a couple other people shoot it and see how it performs. If someone else shoots it and it doesn’t malfunction at all, it’s probably your technique. If that’s the case, don’t worry it’s definitely fixable! If there are any instructors at the range you go to, get a quick one on one lesson and they can help you out with that. The local range I go to have a bunch instructors and they are always doing lessons with new shooters and it helps them out a lot.

Lastly, sometimes new guns are especially tight and need a couple hundred rounds to properly break in. Try different types of ammo too. For instance HK recommends 124gr for breaking in their guns.
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Mine did that at first. After a few mags, it was gone. I had not lubed it and had fired it right out of the box. I believe that was the reason. It sounds like it going away if a second shooter didn't have the issue. Enjoy the gun.
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Couple things. Did you lube the gun before shooting it the first time? Most guns don’t come from the factory ready to shoot. I’m not saying you can’t shoot it directly out of the box, but you’re more likely to get better performance if you clean all the oil from the factory out and replace it with a quality gun lubricant. The stuff that’s on there from the factory is typically a rust preventative, and not a lubricant.

Limp wrist is a thing. If you don’t have a good proper grip while shooting, you can possibly cause a malfunction. One easy way to see if it’s you or the gun is to have a couple other people shoot it and see how it performs. If someone else shoots it and it doesn’t malfunction at all, it’s probably your technique. If that’s the case, don’t worry it’s definitely fixable! If there are any instructors at the range you go to, get a quick one on one lesson and they can help you out with that. The local range I go to have a bunch instructors and they are always doing lessons with new shooters and it helps them out a lot.

Lastly, sometimes new guns are especially tight and need a couple hundred rounds to properly break in. Try different types of ammo too. For instance HK recommends 124gr for breaking in their guns.
Thank you for your response.. Had all that grease cleaned out and lubed.. Did have an instructor shoot .. slide did not get hung up.. I plqn on running a bunch of ammo thru.. various types.. I will try HK 124 thanks ..
Most all firearms, are coated with a rust inhibitor, which is not a true lubricant. Always clean a new firearm, and lube to factory spec, before shooting it for the first time.
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Weak 115 grain ammo can cause that on a new gun. Lube good and use 124 or 147 grain better stuff for the first couple hundred and it will probably shoot anything after that.
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I agree with the above comments. Get the proper lube and apply like the directions say. I like to put 500 rounds through a new gun before I call it broken in.
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make sure you have a solid, 2-handed grip. support hand wrapped tightly around the primary hand.

and that you're not doing the cup-and-saucer movie-style grip.

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when you say, the slide stays back, do you mean it's locked fully to the rear? slide-catch engaged? perhaps inadvertently?

or do you mean that when the slide travels forward, it doesn't go the last 1/4" into battery (lock-up)? if it's the latter, IMHO, that could be a combination of grip style, and gun new-ness. I have a relatively new P320, the fit is nice-and-tight, but during dry-firing, sometimes the slide hangs back about a 1/4", and a simple thumb press sends it that last 1/4" forward into battery. when live-firing, though, the slide is rebounding with enough force that this never happens with live ammo, for this particular new gun. I chalk that up to new parts breaking in, steel-on-steel mating surfaces getting to know each other better.
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make sure you have a solid, 2-handed grip. support hand wrapped tightly around the primary hand.

and that you're not doing the cup-and-saucer movie-style grip.

ETA:
when you say, the slide stays back, do you mean it's locked fully to the rear? slide-catch engaged? perhaps inadvertently?

or do you mean that when the slide travels forward, it doesn't go the last 1/4" into battery (lock-up)? if it's the latter, IMHO, that could be a combination of grip style, and gun new-ness. I have a relatively new P320, the fit is nice-and-tight, but during dry-firing, sometimes the slide hangs back about a 1/4", and a simple thumb press sends it that last 1/4" forward into battery. when live-firing, though, the slide is rebounding with enough force that this never happens with live ammo, for this particular new gun. I chalk that up to new parts breaking in, steel-on-steel mating surfaces getting to know each other better.
Thank you for your response.. absolutely have a strong two hand grip.. and its the last 1/4 hanging back.. will put heavier duty ammo .. and work on breaking it in.. thank you soo much !!
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I have about 350 rounds through my 320-m17 and only had 2 malfunctions. One was fail to go into battery @ around 100 rounds and the other was fail to eject around 250 rounds. The fail to eject left the fired case in the chamber and tried feed a live round from the magazine. Both fails were with W-W 115 gr. I lube mine with mil-comm TW25B on the rails and slip2000 EWL30 for everything else.
I have about 350 rounds through my 320-m17 and only had 2 malfunctions. One was fail to go into battery @ around 100 rounds and the other was fail to eject around 250 rounds. The fail to eject left the fired case in the chamber and tried feed a live round from the magazine. Both fails were with W-W 115 gr. I lube mine with mil-comm TW25B on the rails and slip2000 EWL30 for everything else.
Thanks.. I am experiencing less and less.. put some heavier 124 through.. seemed to help..and lubed.. It was many malfunctions at first.
Thanks.. I am experiencing less and less.. put some heavier 124 through.. seemed to help..and lubed.. It was many malfunctions at first.
I've found some guns don't like some types of ammo. Ammo that have a cannelure around the case at the base of the bullet can cause some guns to fail to go to battery. Cases that are not smooth like some steel case ammo can cause feeding problems and problems going into battery. Some guns like my well broken in Glocks will shoot anything but a under powered round will stove pipe.
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