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Kel-tec Sub 2000

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Nothing to do with a Sig, but I trust the people in this group more than my other groups so I'm posting here.

Anyone have experience with this thing? I have the opportunity to buy one for just under 400. It literally folds in half down to the size of a computer keyboard. It takes glock magazines up to 33 rnds and apparently Mcarbo makes a ton of parts for it, including the optic mount shown below that swings out of the way so the gun can fold in half with an optic. I'm kind of liking the idea of throwing this in a backpack when camping or hiking, etc. The only Kel-tec I have experience with is the KSG dual tube shotgun, which is good quality and works flawlessly. I'm hoping the same build quality applies to this thing.

As far as innovation goes, I give Kel-tec a 10 out of 10 for this thing, but I want to know how reliable it is.
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My nephew bought one when they first came out. Pretty nice little rifles. They make a great truck/backpack gun.
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My nephew bought one when they first came out. Pretty nice little rifles. They make a great truck/backpack gun.
When it's unfolded does it lock tight so there is no movement in the barrel?
I wouldn’t pass on that deal. I’ve handled one but not shot it, always wanted to come across another one at a good price.
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I have friends who have the 2000 and they luv them.
They say, they can use any ammo without an issue, great to store in backpack or where limited space, fun to shoot and accurate as well.
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I have one, got it when they first came out. Very accurate out to 75-100 yards. Stays in a laptop bag with Glock 19 and magazines for the most part. I found no need for optics on it, if you use them, or want one on the Sub. You will need the fold over adapter for MCARBO.
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I have one, got it when they first came out. Very accurate out to 75-100 yards. Stays in a laptop bag with Glock 19 and magazines for the most part. I found no need for optics on it, if you use them, or want one on the Sub. You will need the fold over adapter for MCARBO.
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The only reason I was thinking about the Mcarbo mount and optic is some reviewers say it's sometimes difficult to get a sight picture due to the height of the rear sight. I'll decide when I shoot it myself. They are holding it for and I'm going to go ahead and 'pull the trigger' tomorrow.
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Ive got a Sub2K in 40SW. It is an amazing gun, and so much fun to shoot.
The price is great at under $400! I would jump on it.

MCarbo makes a TON of aftermarket parts for it. Great Company

It is a perfect truck gun, or bugout gun. it is a VERY natural shooter. like @deserttrans said, it is very accurate out to 100 yards. You can consistently ring steel out to those distances.

Without "getting behind the sites", I can make A zone hits easily out to 30 yards. It really is a super "point and shoot" gun
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A close shooting buddy of my bought the Gen 1. He loved it and shot it very well. Extremely well. It took Beretta mags which matched up with his main gun, a Beretta 92. He’s a vet and loves the Beretta. As time went by he got the Glock habit and bought the Gen 2 that took Glock mags. He loved it even more and gave the Gen 1 to me. Now I love it. We shoot together and love the guns. He has a red dot on his. Add in the fact that it disappears into a large purse, brief case etc and its great. If a PCC fits your need this is a GREAT gun. BTW I let other guys shoot it and two have bought their own.
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I have had a 9mm Gen 2 for a couple years now, somehow snagged it for $440 during the height of the COVID/peaceful protest insanity. I absolutely love it! I'm a big fan of Keltec's innovation, though sometimes their quality control frustrates me. This gun however, has been flawless.

Mine started life as a Glock 19 model, but I bought the parts to convert it over to take P226 mags, and I'm debating getting the mag catch tab for it to be able to take P320 mags as well. It was a somewhat frustrating process to change it over, and in hindsight I probably should have just sent it back to Keltec and had them do it; it was worth it for me for the experience, though.

You do have to get pretty dang low to pick up the sites on the stock model, but I know MCARBO makes a taller rear sight post that helps alleviate that. They actually make a ton of parts that improve the overall experience of the Sub2k, but I have found it to be perfectly adequate stock.
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When it's unfolded does it lock tight so there is no movement in the barrel?
Correct. The folding action splits the bolt and the chamber, and there is a tab on the top of the buttstock that catches on the front of the top rail and keeps everything in place.
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I've eyeballed those several times, but would like to shoot one before I buy. $400 tho is pretty hard to pass on !!!

Will be interested in your thoughts about accuracy with the OE sights !
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I've eyeballed those several times, but would like to shoot one before I buy. $400 tho is pretty hard to pass on !!!

Will be interested in your thoughts about accuracy with the OE sights !
I'd describe the recoil (at least with 9mm) as snappy, but very controllable. It's a straight blowback action, and the chunky bolt moving back and forth is noticeable, but I've never had an issue keeping shots on target, and my sights are stock.
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I highly recommend picking one up, even if you have to pay 500 for it (new, of course). Mine is always nearby.

PROs:
  • Exceptionally accurate > more than I ever expected
  • Light, compact, storable
  • Reliable, even with really cheap crappy ammo (I know this from experience; I use up my cheap stuff through my Glock 19 and Sub2000)
  • Takes standard Glock 9mm mags; mine also works flawlessly with Magpul 9mm mags; haven't tried ETS yet
  • Quick and easy to deploy, especially with the (expensive $149) Mcarbo flippy sight mount
  • The Mcarbo flip mount with a Vortex Crossfire provides an absolute cowitness
  • Lots of aftermarket accessories available
  • Kel-Tec has (in my experience) great customer service if there's a recall or repair
CONs:
  • All I can think of is longevity/durability; with all of the plastic, it's not really known how many rounds it'll last over the years so you may not want to run it super hard
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I have owned this Gen2 for more than 5 years. Takes Glock mags. It is very accurate and has been 100% reliable. Actually it’s every bit as accurate as my MPX at 4 times the cost. Buy it. You won’t regret it.
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I had one that accepted Beretta 92 magazines, same ones as my M-9. I kept it in a gym bag in my car along with a couple of 30 round magazines. It was reliable, although I really didn't shoot it a lot. Unfortunately, it was lost when the car was stolen, along with the M-9 that was in the console.

For $400, if you already have a handgun with the same magazines, it's a good deal.
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I had one that accepted Beretta 92 magazines, same ones as my M-9. I kept it in a gym bag in my car along with a couple of 30 round magazines. It was reliable, although I really didn't shoot it a lot. Unfortunately, it was lost when the car was stolen, along with the M-9 that was in the console.

For $400, if you already have a handgun with the same magazines, it's a good deal.
I don't have a Glock, but I have another PCC that takes Glock 17 mags so I have several of them...including one of the 50rd drum mags.

I'm picking it tomorrow, with tax it will be right at 420. It's going in my bug out bag.
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get it// i was just ;looking at one of those for a backpack option. i don't 'car gun' but I would take it on a car ride, woods, especially cross country or out in the sticks or whatever.

was sick of waiting on p322 so I got a PMR30 for fun and wow, fn wow what a great shooter.. super accurate sweet trigger and 30 little big 40gr bu=lets running at 2200 fps is 'no joke'.

I think next up is actually another KelTec, the P17.. reviews seem similarly positive to the Sub2000.. though I'd get it in .40 instead of 9 ;D but I'd be happy w either.
When it's unfolded does it lock tight so there is no movement in the barrel?
I notice that your rifle's buttstock is pinned in the first hole (according to the pictures in your post). If you were to take the pin out and put it in the third position (furthest from the end of the buttstock), your front sight would be completely enclosed into the buttstock- and thusly captured much more securely.
Your length-of-pull would increase by 1.625 inches, but it's still pretty short anyway.
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Seems like a nice compliment to the corresponding Glock pistol (9/40)
Seems like a nice compliment to the corresponding Glock pistol (9/40)
And you can actually change out the grip to match a Beretta 92, S&W M&P, or a Sig 226.
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