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I want a solid guide rod

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Looking to upgrade all the guide rods in my 3 latest Sigs. Both my p226 and p239 have the factory hollow guide rod. My newly acquired p229 legacy has the worst plastic guide rod I’ve ever seen. It actually gets stuck inside the recoil spring requiring pliers to extract it. I’m wondering if that may have something to do with the 229 having a little more recoil than others I have shot in the past.
so my question is which guide rod is the best? I’ve been considering GreyGuns Fat rod and Armory Craft. Not sure if I want coated or stainless finish with either of them.
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Finding a solid rod for the P239 will limit your search, and then again if you want them from the same manufacturer, more limiting.

The P226 and P229 are both available from Gray Guns and Armory Craft alike.

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Looking to upgrade all the guide rods in my 3 latest Sigs. Both my p226 and p239 have the factory hollow guide rod. My newly acquired p229 legacy has the worst plastic guide rod I’ve ever seen. It actually gets stuck inside the recoil spring requiring pliers to extract it. I’m wondering if that may have something to do with the 229 having a little more recoil than others I have shot in the past.
so my question is which guide rod is the best? I’ve been considering GreyGuns Fat rod and Armory Craft. Not sure if I want coated or stainless finish with either of them.
I have the gray gun in my M17 and I absolutely love it! I might be being a bit hyperbolic here but it feels like shooting 115gr when shooting 147gr +p+. Best thing is that when I shoot 124 or even 115 I have had no feeding issues and runs great. I will never use anything else when it comes to guide rods and springs.
I am leaning towards the Gray fat rod. I’m wondering if there is any benefit of the larger diameter. For now I do plan on using the stock braided coil.
I have them in my 227 and 229 and I don’t notice any difference or improvement. One is a AC the other is GG.
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I am leaning towards the Gray fat rod. I’m wondering if there is any benefit of the larger diameter. For now I do plan on using the stock braided coil.
While I cannot comment first hand on the "Fat" rods Gray Guns produces, as far as being a larger diameter, when using the braided springs, only one end of the Spring can be tight on the rod, and it goes toward the flange. If the whole spring is tight on the rod, the spring may end up failing sooner, even if you do keep it lubricated. You may want to go to a single wire spring.
The rail fit slide to frame is what controls travel, spring tension powers the second half of the cycle to chamber the next round. About all the rod does is guide the spring to keep it controlled. A hollow rod or even polymer is evidence there isn't a lot of stress on it. Solid rods are traditional mostly because it's cheap to hack off a length of inexpensive round stock to fabricate it - old school gun fabrication on an assembly line. As the price of finished steel went up, new methods and materials were sought out. Some pistol designs even put the spring around the barrel - but it was subject to a lot of heat by overenthusiastic shooters.

Solid rods are used by competitive shooters to add some weight to a gun, when lasers first came out, they were built into guide rods complete with battery. Those work pretty well and are still available for each specific firearm. Eliminates a new holster, too.
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I’ll take all the above comments into consideration for my p239 and p226. Both with hollow steel rods. But for my p229 .40 it has a plastic rod and the spring is tight and binding. It’s definitely got to go.
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