[7.62Kolectr]

Father and son perish while dad struggles to chamber his empty carry weapon

Just another example of why if you carry it needs to be ready to go in an instant.
Sad outcome for both victims.

 

[ronin11]

7.62, I saw that video on another forum. Tough to watch, man.

 

[Blu]

I never could understand the not chambered theory, it potentially cost these two their lives.

 

[olbriar]

Very sad.

 

[bblr]

So sad

 

[Sigarms228]

Very sad indeed. He was at a huge huge disadvantage being robbed and may have lived if he just left his gun alone and let the robbers take what they wanted.

 

[PatFranklin]

About a year ago I saw a training video of an off-duty cop who is standing on line at 24 hr drug store. There were just a handful of people queued up when a BG enters and from under his coat he pulls out a sawed off shotgun. Although no sound, you can see he's barking orders and everyone is standing perfectly still. The BG is also yelling down one of the aisles. His attention is riveted on whoever it is he's yelling at. Meantime you see the cop very slowly and with little movement take his right hand and push aside his jacket and appears to grab hold of his gun. The BG turns back towards the group with the cop but he doesn't notice the cop's hand. As the BG turns his attention back down the aisle the cop very smoothly draws his gun and fires one shot killing the BG.

You get the impression that if he couldn't get his shot the cop would've let the BG go for another day. But he waited patiently and was calm and cool. It was the BG that was all herky-jerky.

 

[USMC6872]

You get the impression that if he couldn't get his shot the cop would've let the BG go for another day. But he waited patiently and was calm and cool. It was the BG that was all herky-jerky.

The thing you have to remember always is to be ready, and take your time. Wait for it, and take it when it happens.

 

[ray1970]

There's a lot more to carrying a gun than simply carrying a gun.

Besides being proficient with handling the firearm, having the mental capacity to remain calm in a stressful situation and make good decisions is crucial.

Stay safe everyone.

 

[GCBHM]

The thing you have to remember always is to be ready, and take your time. Wait for it, and take it when it happens.

Patience is a virtue.

 

[Ewnrules]

I hear a lot of shop owners having guns and shotguns behind the counter. But they need to spend more effort training to use them effectively. Yes, very sad situation. But sometimes, better to lose some money than losing lives.

 

[beancrusher]

Very sad outcome.

If a person chooses to possess a firearm, that decision should also come with a commitment to enough training with it to be safe and effective.

 

[chris2814]

Very sad indeed. He was at a huge huge disadvantage being robbed and may have lived if he just left his gun alone and let the robbers take what they wanted.

I agree 100% here.


He seems to be surrounded and outnumbered as well as outgunned. Without even getting into his choice of whether or not to have a round chambered it would have taken near perfect precision and actions to get all the bad guys before at least one could fire on him. In his defense, is so easy to make a mistake when in these horrible situations.

 

[PatFranklin]

Just because you carry a gun doesn't necessarily mean you should. Not having a round chambered tells me this guy didn't know what he was doing.

 

[USMC6872]

Just because you carry a gun doesn't necessarily mean you should. Not having a round chambered tells me this guy didn't know what he was doing.

HE either had a lack of experience or a Nagging Wife.

 

[Curmudgeon]

There's a lot more to carrying a gun than simply carrying a gun.

You got that right. I have a friend who just got his CPL a few months ago. Nice guy and all, but a bit hard headed.

He carries his Glock (sigh) with no round chambered and gangsta style.

I have tried and tried to convince him that could be a possible deadly mistake, and he still doesn't "get it".

I just sent him this video. Perhaps he will listen now............maybe. I ain't holdin' my breath for it though.

 

[InOverMyHead]

What is gangsta style?

There's another vid of a guy at a store that gets robbed, he also has to chamber a round before he can make it go bang.

 

[Curmudgeon]

What is gangsta style?

Tucked in the waistband of his breeches..........NO holster.

 

[7.62Kolectr]

Tucked in the waistband of his breeches..........NO holster.

Good grief! Take his gun and smack him with it. Then turn off his tv as this is apparently where he's gotten his ideas from.

Afterward send him this video as well.

 

[InOverMyHead]

Tucked in the waistband of his breeches..........NO holster.

Ah, then the empty chamber makes sense in pragmatic sort of way.

I've heard a number of "trainers" advise people worried about carrying loaded to do so minus the round. At the end of the day, check your weapon to see if the hammer fell. If not, then know that the hammer won't fall on a chambered round either. Work yourself into carrying with a round in the chamber. Baby steps and all that. Seems sound advice.