[CLMN]

I've searched the archives and Googled until I was blue in the face... and I still don't get it. Please help.

I own a P229RM (newest model - MA-compliant). It works great with new P229-1 magazines. It also works great with old factory P228/P229 pre-ban hi-cap magazines (yes, still legal to own in my moonbat state). But it will not work at all with an old Ram-Line P228 15-round hi-cap magazine.

Why is that?

 

[12131]

Why is that? Ram-Line mags are garbage. Seriously.
And I'm not just talking out of my rear end, either. These mags from the 90s are pure garbage.

 

[CLMN]

Why is that? Ram-Line mags are garbage. Seriously.

You take what you can get in pre-bans when you live in a loony moonbat state.

Is the technical explanation really just as simple as that?

 

[12131]

You take what you can get in pre-bans when you live in a loony moonbat state.

Is the technical explanation really just as simple as that?

Yes, very simply, garbage.

 

[Willard]

I've searched the archives and Googled until I was blue in the face... and I still don't get it. Please help.

I own a P229RM (newest model - MA-compliant). It works great with new P229-1 magazines. It also works great with old factory P228/P229 pre-ban hi-cap magazines (yes, still legal to own in my moonbat state). But it will not work at all with an old Ram-Line P228 15-round hi-cap magazine.

Why is that?

12131 is correct, basically their design left a lot to be desired. Once upon a time, I bought a couple for my Browning High Power, as IIRC they held a couple of extra rounds than "stock". This was because they used something similar to a flat spiral torsion spring, to eliminate the normal spring space required under the follower, when the magazine was fully loaded.
Maintaining correct spring pressure was their major fault... IIRC, they are easily recognizable by the rivet that connects the spring to the magazine body.

 

[12131]

Yeah, their "springless" mag design was like a novelty at the time. Users quickly realized what POS they were.

 

[12131]

On the topic of crappy mags, folks should never use Ram-Line mags and U.S.A. mags.
I would not use Promag, either.

 

[CLMN]

12131 is correct, basically their design left a lot to be desired. Once upon a time, I bought a couple for my Browning High Power, as IIRC they held a couple of extra rounds than "stock". This was because they used something similar to a flat spiral torsion spring, to eliminate the normal spring space required under the follower, when the magazine was fully loaded.
Maintaining correct spring pressure was their major fault... IIRC, they are easily recognizable by the rivet that connects the spring to the magazine body.

Yeah, their "springless" mag design was like a novelty at the time. Users quickly realized what POS they were.

Okay, so it sounds like these magazines are essentially useless even to someone with a P228 or a pre-2010 P229, correct?

Sounds like I got zinged. Live and learn. :mellow:

 

[12131]

Okay, so it sounds like these magazines are essentially useless even to someone with a P228 or a pre-2010 P229, correct?

Sounds like I got zinged. Live and learn. :mellow:

Use them for range practice, if you will, but for EDC, I suggest you never do.