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Classic P-Series prices, is it inflation or lunacy?

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Of late, I've been on a bit of a buying spree, mostly on Gun Broker. I'm slowing down though, wife is getting suspicious! A LEO trade-in, that would have fetched about $400 tops a few years ago. Now is often more than 50% higher. A Gunbroker seller of gun parts, "Gunbusters", just sold a P229 "repair kit" - all the parts and slide from a P229, no frame. The slide and barrel on it showed high wear, definitely a beater compared to most used. High bid was $440. Within a day of that repair kit sale, a nice P229 legacy slide gun went for $556 - a good deal, considering. Most semi-decent plain P's look to be going for $6 to $7 bills or a bit more. Less plebian types, well over 1k.

I don't think SIG is going to be making them much longer, at least that's my hunch, they've cut their offerings way back from just a few years ago. German frames and guns are gone of course. Guess strikers are where the money is. Thoughts on the future of Classic P's?
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You do not shoot the goose that lays the golden egg. So my guess is they are not planning to stop making them.
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SIG made many millions of the classics. They will be available used for years to come. Don't sweat it.
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I've said it before, SIG will not go the way of S&W. Their metal guns will continue to be made.
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LEO trade in "Good" condition $800 base bottom blue P226's I've seen lately ($50 premium or whatever for a hand slap) are a joke. There's too much business interest on youtube that blows up on gunjoker. The entire industry has become like everything else in this country... trust NO ONE.
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@bumper, I know what you are saying, the used LEO offerings have went up in price, even the DAK versions. Of course some may be because, of Sig dropping the .357 Sig, and .40 S&W chamberings, as new, there are new shooters, wanting to get in on the bandwagon!

Just as I have been posting weekly, the "kit" offerings currently on Gun Broker, involving Sig models. Some that I wouldn't have thought should go very high, such as current P320 and P365 offerings, have been sort of pricey. This past week, included a pair of P6/P225 units. Yes even .357 Sig P229 Slides went for more than I paid for a "new" assembly from Osage County Guns, a year ago. So it's Supply & Demand, that I guess, are setting prices.

I've even gotten comments from members, wishing I hadn't let the cat, out of the bag, for this resource, as the "Ghost Gunners" liked it better, when prices were lower.
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I don't see the P series going anywhere in my lifetime. I'm not alone in saying the classic P series and many variants are iconic pistols and the only Sig's I purchase and use. For some reason I find the Sig striker series not for me. Meanwhile, I have multiple P series. Sig will keep the classic P in production for long time to come.
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I’m with bumper, I don’t think Sig will offer the classic P much longer, except for possibly high end, high dollar CLASSICS! To see what they were heavily promoting in the desert event at Ben Avery, you could hardly find a classic P.
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Lunacy? Or end of an era fueled by hyperinflation? How many million Mustangs did they make, and the old classics are still coveted.
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We can only speculate. But we've already seen a very large contraction of the classic P series catalog, particularly in caliber. I feel, not fact, that soon we will down to limited models of only P226/P229 in 9mm only. The govt contracts are too lucrative and the current generation thinks striker fired is the way to go. We are also seeing a down caliber contraction with 30 super, 380, even 22 as home defense. If you want classic P in anything other than 9 get it used now and anything other than 226/229, get it now, in my opinion.
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I've said it before, SIG will not go the way of S&W. Their metal guns will continue to be made.
I don't know. All the young kids these days, want the plastic striker fired pistols with all the gadgets, bells and whistles on them. "Iron sights, what are those?" Lol
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I don't see the P series going anywhere in my lifetime. I'm not alone in saying the classic P series and many variants are iconic pistols and the only Sig's I purchase and use. For some reason I find the Sig striker series not for me. Meanwhile, I have multiple P series. Sig will keep the classic P in production for long time to come.
I used to be the same way and only entertained hammer fired Sig's. I had mainly classic P Series. Then in 2021 bought my first P320 x5 Legion... now I have eight P320's in various configurations... Those 320 strikers grew on me, especially the AXG varieties! :lol1:
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Not that long ago, Sig offered all of their classic P-series guns in a wide variety - but in my opinion, many of those options were just cheesy cosmetic variations. They've trimmed it down and focused on a few select options in each model, ditched the ugly colors, all of which I actually think is a good thing. It was getting ridiculous there for a while. I do, however, wish they had retained some of the other caliber options, but again - Sig isn't going to produce something that very few people are buying, and the reality is, very few people are buying 40 S&W or .357 Sig these days, despite what a forum like this might lead people to believe.

That said, it certainly isn't just 'kids these days' who want polymer striker guns - how many agencies or departments at this point are placing orders for metal, hammer-fired guns? Almost none. Professional demand drives a lot of this.

I think Sig will continue to offer a few options in each of the classic P-series models for a long time. But at the end of the day, they are a business that wants to grow and make a profit, and you don't do that by spending a bunch of effort and expense catering to dwindling parts of the market.
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Two factors: Like the Mustang, the buying value of the dollar then vs now. I owned a '66, paid $600 for it when milk was 50c in a refundable glass jug and gas was less.

I haven't paid $4 for gas - yet - but that Mustang I sold for $1000 years ago would be $4000 today - no carpet, and interior pieces missing. I ran it as a rat rod before the term was even known.

Second factor is disposable cash in the hands of buyers. In the case of the P series, OP is the factor. He's still on a buying spree (or not) because the prices haven't tripped his assessment of worth. There are two components to that, one it the utility value, does it load and shoot a bullet, the second is the brag value to an owner, the "I have one and you don't and maybe wont ever."

Milsub 70's Rolexes going for $224,000, one of the 150 of 1200 left kinda thing. Utility value of that Rolex is no more than any other Swiss auto for telling time, about $250. The other $223, 750 is the guarantee nobody will be buying one and wearing it to the same dinner party. Nobody - except the inner circle of the other 100 or so other owners. Like Shelby Daytona Coupes - theres only 6. Thats it. The original Cobra with three different colors of paint, literally rotten leather upholstery, etc? Millions if it would ever come up and no, the family will not sell.

There are plenty of P Classics but at the interest level of the knowledgeable gun owner there are enough that one will pay $50 more than the others, and ever 6 months that ratchets up again in this economy. Obviously utility value isn't the draw - get a P365XL, you have a gun that shoots bullets. Nope, it's "I have a P series which means Im in a different social status group and you are not."

We all understand that game, the trick is to catch them when they have bottomed out. Like that Mustang - paid $600 when I got it. Or a SW 4566 TSW, $450. A lot of us have a gun that most others would have to pay double now if and when they could find one. Oh that I had picked up a German Border Guard HK P7 in red bluing when they were $450 - but the different manual of arms meant it would be a safe queen.

Ruger P89 series are still cheap. CMP 1911's can be had - no major markup over asking. It's just what asking price can fit the buyer. As they come up each gun has it's buyer group and as time goes by it's a different generation with different interests. By the way, all the early Glocks have already been collected if I hear correctly. That started 15 years ago. Buy at the bottom of the curve and you get the bargains when nobody else is looking. I'd say P series are escalating, there may be some bargains yet, but the curve is accelerating.
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Sig has contracts with various U.S. government agencies for P-series pistols. DoD (US military) and various 3-letter and 4-letter agencies, all issuing P226 and P229 weapons, tells me the classic line of Sigs is here for a while. Military branches might transition to the M17/M18 but I don't see the FBI doing that. And that's just the U.S.

Not to mention all the NCIS TV shows that show our heroes carrying classic metal Sigs. :)
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Sig has contracts with various U.S. government agencies for P-series pistols. DoD (US military) and various 3-letter and 4-letter agencies, all issuing P226 and P229 weapons, tells me the classic line of Sigs is here for a while. Military branches might transition to the M17/M18 but I don't see the FBI doing that. And that's just the U.S.

Not to mention all the NCIS TV shows that show our heroes carrying classic metal Sigs. :)
You are way behind the times. All those agencies and military no longer use metal framed guns. Contracts change, get ammended or get discontinued at the whim of the government.

Metal frame Sigs are fast becoming a novelty gun… Just like 1911s.. they are still around but who really carries one anymore? LOL.. yes I’m digging on the 1911 guys. But. If people are honest with themselves lighter is easier to carry and that’s just a fact.
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I think it has more to do with inflation. There is so much free money still floating around prices will continue to go up.
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I've said it before, SIG will not go the way of S&W. Their metal guns will continue to be made.
Amen, You're so right thank god I've got 3 P series two 9mm and one S&W with a 357 barrel.
I think it has more to do with inflation. There is so much free money still floating around prices will continue to go up.
That's true to an extent, but perhaps not the way you meant. Inflation is a major factor driving my buying. I've been a saver all my life, being really poor as a kid will do that to you. I have too much liquidity, having sold some land a few years ago (which I did way too early, as it's doubled again for the new owners). So I'm watching the value of cash savings plummet (thanks Brandon). I'm not alone of course, there are many, mostly seniors, in the same fix, cash is losing money. So, while I haven't considered guns as an investment before, I've always bought them 'cause I intrinsically like them, that's changing some. I still don't look to them as a practical place to park money, too much hassle to buy and sell and really they don't tie up all that much.
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