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I see that there is a growing movement to make sure that your means of self-defense is inaccessible when you need it most. If you have kids, teach them gun safety.
They teach sex ed in school, talk about drug abuse, suicide, and bullying. But why not gun safety, basic first aid, balancing a checkbook and what to do when you are pulled over by police while in a car.
I don't like being told that I have to lock up a gun that is there to protect myself and family. We knew where the guns were at home, but we didn't touch them unless my father was there. My dad had it easier. He had guns in his room as he was raised on a farm until the middle of high-school.
I used to shoot my dad's .22 in grade school. A few of us would go to the range and we were taught shooting in the boy scouts. I actually didn't get into hunting until college. Went deer hunting with a buddy and first time out I got a deer with my dads Winchester Lever action 30-30. I had not even sighted it in! Open sights, no less! My third year in college I bought a .22 revolver, then a .44mag S&W and then a .45 Model 70 Colt. I was working quite a bit in college in VT. Had the guns in my room on Campus. I hid them in the ceiling and lived in a single room.
Out of college I bought a Remington bolt action to hunt deer with. And, I was always successful. One day I went hunting with the .44 revolver and I never used my bolt action rifle again.
So, what happened to the generations after me? Most kids aren't exposed to the hunting sports or just hiking and camping. You hear about everything being genetically modified and filled with antibiotics. Hunting sems like it would be such a great idea. It brings down the deer population and provides money for habitat. Just my thoughts.
 

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I disagree with your general assumption. The nationwide call for responsible storage of guns in the home has nothing to do with preventing self-defense. Check the NRA website. It does not take much imagination to setup a place for the home defense firearm that young children can not access. The give no thought to what you are doing careless parent is what is being targeted. And just incase you missed it, yesterday in Texas a four year old got ahold of dad's gun and shot and killed his three year old sibling.
 

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I'm not a LEO, security, or military and yet I have had guns pointed at me 7 times and 2 of the 7, the bullet was fired. 2, I talked my way out of. Whether I am home alone or not I have the right to keep and bear arms. My parents also taught me about gun safety and at 11 or 12 I had an hunting license after taking a state mandated safety class. Now I don't have any children but when nieces and my cousin's kids would come over my guns would be in my locked bedroom or my safe. Now that they are all grown up they aren't just lying around for people to take but I don't lock my bedroom door. The doors of the house are always locked unless my journey outside is for a very short period of time. I do this because once I and my living in sin GF were waiting for a body shop to open. It was still dark out and two guys came up to the car and tried to open the doors. I had locked the car doors when we parked. This was before the auto locking doors that some vehicles have. We both showed them our guns and they quickly left. I should be able to decide where and how I store my weapons based on my experience. I have seen things happen very quickly. There is NO one way to store your firearms because there are so many scenarios that can change. I feel the government should not be allowed to mandate how I store them. IMHO.
 

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you have to be ready to defend yourself and your family when needed, but you also have to be a responsible gun owner to keep your guns safe and secure. Can you have both, yes. Just take precautions. Teaching your family on the basics of gun safety is a good first step.
 

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OP,
If you reside in a BLUE State,your 2A Rights are dwindling on a daily basis.

The ONLY SAFE firearm is a CLEARED,LOCKED,VAULTED firearm.
(not in a closet inside a locked bedroom door)
or
In the hands of or on the individual of a competent/experience operator.

RoyConley's post of the 4yr old shooting a sibling should have the parent(s) arrested...instantly.
 

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I'll weigh in with my recent personal experience with a nearly 2 year old boy in the house that I love more than anything.

I have an assortment of carry guns like we all do. When he reached mobility, they were always locked up or on my person, no exceptions. Good right? Well not quite.

The various safes/lock boxes I have, what if I forgot to lock them? Well that question gave me enough anxiety that I changed my system. I would be at work and in the middle of a meeting or driving and terrible thoughts would come into my head. I'd have to call and ask my wife to confirm they were indeed locked. Well I couldn't take the anxiety anymore so I removed the chambered round from all guns but my P365 which is my carry 90% of the time and with me when I'm not home. This added a layer of security to my system that if somehow I forgot to lock the apparatus or the lock failed, a trigger pull wouldn't do anything. I don't see racking the slide as realistic at his age.

So comfort levels vary. I realized that I can't have chambered guns in the house when I'm not home, even when locked. When he's old enough to know guns, that will change, but for right now when everything is a toy to be explored, it's my system.
 

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I disagree with your general assumption. The nationwide call for responsible storage of guns in the home has nothing to do with preventing self-defense. Check the NRA website. It does not take much imagination to setup a place for the home defense firearm that young children can not access. The give no thought to what you are doing careless parent is what is being targeted. And just incase you missed it, yesterday in Texas a four year old got ahold of dad's gun and shot and killed his three year old sibling.
Big shocker. I question why someone with your obvious liberal sentiments would even be a member of a firearms forum. Or are you just here to troll law abiding citizens with your anti 2 A rhetoric?
 

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As will no doubt be obvious, I am not a lawyer. Nevertheless, when I read proposed legislation or news stories that call for weapons to be securely stored "when not in use" I am forced to ask "If I set my weapon on my night stand before going to bed so it will be available for defense during the night, is that weapon somehow not 'in use'"? Granted, if I leave the house I should store any weapons left behind, I accept that. But otherwise, I've seen no definition of 'in use' in any of the newly proposed rules.
 

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Big shocker. I question why someone with your obvious liberal sentiments would even be a member of a firearms forum. Or are you just here to troll law abiding citizens with your anti 2 A rhetoric?
Wow, we turning into Glock Talk, probably one of the rudest, most inhospitable gun forums I’ve ever had the misfortune to experience.

While I am on the conservative end of the spectrum, I do have liberal friends who are shooters. We don’t agree much on political issues, but we all like to shoot and own firearms. Some even realize the 2A is a civil right. 👍
 

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Wow. Comparing us to Glock talk.
ok. I admit that the “House Gun” is loaded condition 2. I have a “Gun Box” chest that uses RFID, has been perfectly reliable even when the power is off, and the RFID is activated by a ring I wear on my right hand.
and I don’t have minor children anymore.
everything else is in a vault, unloaded.
 

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boys don't have sleep overs, girls do. girls are naturally inquisitive (intuitive) i guess both. when my daughter had her first sleep over age 12-13, i told the girls that there were guns in the house and not to touch then. one of these young ladies spoke up and said that her daddy has guns. our kids educate themselves through peer interaction, my 14 my daughter could outshoot me any day of the week. TEACH YOUR CHILDERN EARLY
 

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Well it's like many things in life. The vast majority are doing the right thing. But the anti 2A crowd and politicians will use it to gain support and make money buy votes.
Just think if we could keep all adults from drinking and driving, or playing on their cell phones while driving, or not start, get hooked or OD on opioids !!! We would not have politicians promise us they will fix it for us after something bad has happened.

But like many my time in highschool (in the 80's)everyone had to take hunter safety which included gun safety but mostly all with long guns. Not uncommon to see guns in pickup truck rear window gun racks. Not uncommon to see kids walking down county roads with guns to get to hunting spots.

In today's world kids having kids. Not paying attention to their kids. Not knowing any better themselves. I can see where there will be issues. Then the politicians step in and exploit the issue for their gain in their agenda.
So teach your kids young and early but also be responsible. So many easy effective ways to be responsible.
 
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